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	<title>Comments on: F2F conversations and dialog as the answer</title>
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		<title>By: mscofino &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Where to start?</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-26899</link>
		<dc:creator>mscofino &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Where to start?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 05:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Teachers need to feel safe, they need to trust you as an individual before they will follow your advice. They need to see it working time and time again and they need to see &#8220;regular teachers&#8221; succeeding before they feel comfortable enough to start. As Wes says at The Speed of Creativity, we have clear need for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Teachers need to feel safe, they need to trust you as an individual before they will follow your advice. They need to see it working time and time again and they need to see &#8220;regular teachers&#8221; succeeding before they feel comfortable enough to start. As Wes says at The Speed of Creativity, we have clear need for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Learning Is Messy - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let&#8217;s Re-Visit-&#8221;Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-26603</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Is Messy - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let&#8217;s Re-Visit-&#8221;Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BUT â€“ (notice I made it a big but) I GET IT! I could run around my school and district showing teachers and administrators Bobâ€™s kidsâ€™ vodcast and I might even get a few people excited â€“ but most WONâ€T GET IT! You canâ€™t just show most people â€“ you have to show them and explain it to them and then answer their questions and then show it to them again and then explain it to them again and then show them how this relates to things they already do â€“ takes the place of this and makes it even better and does this and this and this! Iâ€™m telling you they will think the vodcast was kinda coolâ€¦ would be an interesting thing for their kids to do once if they had the equipment and the time and someone to show them how to do it. But they wonâ€™t get it until they experience you doing it and getting them to do itâ€¦several times â€¦ and talk about it and have them notice their studentsâ€™ reaction and learning and how they talk about it and how excited their parents get about it. Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face â€“ thatâ€™s itâ€¦ thatâ€™s what Iâ€™m talking about. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BUT â€“ (notice I made it a big but) I GET IT! I could run around my school and district showing teachers and administrators Bobâ€™s kidsâ€™ vodcast and I might even get a few people excited â€“ but most WONâ€T GET IT! You canâ€™t just show most people â€“ you have to show them and explain it to them and then answer their questions and then show it to them again and then explain it to them again and then show them how this relates to things they already do â€“ takes the place of this and makes it even better and does this and this and this! Iâ€™m telling you they will think the vodcast was kinda coolâ€¦ would be an interesting thing for their kids to do once if they had the equipment and the time and someone to show them how to do it. But they wonâ€™t get it until they experience you doing it and getting them to do itâ€¦several times â€¦ and talk about it and have them notice their studentsâ€™ reaction and learning and how they talk about it and how excited their parents get about it. Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face â€“ thatâ€™s itâ€¦ thatâ€™s what Iâ€™m talking about. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 12:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is excellent and relevant.  I am glad that there are people like you at the forefront who are able to speak with such people face to face.

I think education is at a crossroads.  We have a tool chest that we should expand to include new tools while not discarding old ones that work and remain relevant.

We simply cannot have educators who are asking student to learn something new every day who stop their foot in anger and refuse to learn something new themselves!

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is excellent and relevant.  I am glad that there are people like you at the forefront who are able to speak with such people face to face.</p>
<p>I think education is at a crossroads.  We have a tool chest that we should expand to include new tools while not discarding old ones that work and remain relevant.</p>
<p>We simply cannot have educators who are asking student to learn something new every day who stop their foot in anger and refuse to learn something new themselves!</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Moving at the Speed of Creativity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flux</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4296</link>
		<dc:creator>Moving at the Speed of Creativity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 01:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With this in mind, Cool Cat challenges the statists (channelling Wes here ) to become more dynamist, to leave behind the status quo, and embrace what the Librarian in Black calls &#8220;textcasting technologies.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With this in mind, Cool Cat challenges the statists (channelling Wes here ) to become more dynamist, to leave behind the status quo, and embrace what the Librarian in Black calls &#8220;textcasting technologies.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. &#187; MySpace and The Village&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. &#187; MySpace and The Village&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our solution lies not in &#8220;hiding&#8221; &#8212; but in &#8220;educating&#8221;&#8230; hopefully more of us will continue to share this message in the blogoshpere and, as Wesley Fryer states, in face-to-face conversations&#8230;    This entry is filed under In the News, Instructional Technology, Web 2.0, Outside-of-the-box. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.           Leave a Reply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our solution lies not in &#8220;hiding&#8221; &#8212; but in &#8220;educating&#8221;&#8230; hopefully more of us will continue to share this message in the blogoshpere and, as Wesley Fryer states, in face-to-face conversations&#8230;    This entry is filed under In the News, Instructional Technology, Web 2.0, Outside-of-the-box. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.           Leave a Reply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MySpace does have a link at the bottom of every page to report inappropriate content, so there is a level of user-policing going on. I don&#039;t think we want everyone to join MySpace and try to clean it up, but I do think we should become better informed about what is out there, what folks are doing, and how they can use these social networking sites more safely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MySpace does have a link at the bottom of every page to report inappropriate content, so there is a level of user-policing going on. I don&#8217;t think we want everyone to join MySpace and try to clean it up, but I do think we should become better informed about what is out there, what folks are doing, and how they can use these social networking sites more safely.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt in PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your points are valid. It raises several questions. First, where&#039;s the outrage aimed at those who fill MySpace and other blog sites with illicit drug use, promiscuity, and profanity? Where&#039;s the outrage at those who are prompting the blocks? Where&#039;s the outrage aimed at the pedofiles who make these sites unsafe? Directing educators on methods to bypass web filters is, in my opinion, the wrong message. It could, depending upon local polices, land them in trouble. The problem is not the administrators who are trying to block the trash with inadequate tools. The problem is the muck that a few bad apples decide to post. We should demand that the providers of such sites work to keep the content appropriate for schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your points are valid. It raises several questions. First, where&#8217;s the outrage aimed at those who fill MySpace and other blog sites with illicit drug use, promiscuity, and profanity? Where&#8217;s the outrage at those who are prompting the blocks? Where&#8217;s the outrage aimed at the pedofiles who make these sites unsafe? Directing educators on methods to bypass web filters is, in my opinion, the wrong message. It could, depending upon local polices, land them in trouble. The problem is not the administrators who are trying to block the trash with inadequate tools. The problem is the muck that a few bad apples decide to post. We should demand that the providers of such sites work to keep the content appropriate for schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crosby</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-1372</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face – that’s it… that’s what I’m talking about.
&quot;Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models&quot;
http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=51</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face – that’s it… that’s what I’m talking about.<br />
&#8220;Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=51" rel="nofollow">http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=51</a></p>
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		<title>By: Learning Is Messy - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/18/f2f-conversations-and-dialog-as-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Is Messy - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Working, Breathing, Reproducible, Intriguing Models</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BUT – (notice I made it a big but) I GET IT! I could run around my school and district showing teachers and administrators Bob’s kids’ vodcast and I might even get a few people excited – but most WON”T GET IT! You can’t just show most people – you have to show them and explain it to them and then answer their questions and then show it to them again and then explain it to them again and then show them how this relates to things they already do – takes the place of this and makes it even better and does this and this and this! I’m telling you they will think the vodcast was kinda cool… would be an interesting thing for their kids to do once if they had the equipment and the time and someone to show them how to do it. But they won’t get it until they experience you doing it and getting them to do it…several times … and talk about it and have them notice their students’ reaction and learning and how they talk about it and how excited their parents get about it. Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face – that’s it… that’s what I’m talking about. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BUT – (notice I made it a big but) I GET IT! I could run around my school and district showing teachers and administrators Bob’s kids’ vodcast and I might even get a few people excited – but most WON”T GET IT! You can’t just show most people – you have to show them and explain it to them and then answer their questions and then show it to them again and then explain it to them again and then show them how this relates to things they already do – takes the place of this and makes it even better and does this and this and this! I’m telling you they will think the vodcast was kinda cool… would be an interesting thing for their kids to do once if they had the equipment and the time and someone to show them how to do it. But they won’t get it until they experience you doing it and getting them to do it…several times … and talk about it and have them notice their students’ reaction and learning and how they talk about it and how excited their parents get about it. Wes Fryer talks about Face 2 Face – that’s it… that’s what I’m talking about. [...]</p>
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