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	<title>Comments on: Reactionary, statist school leaders ban iPods</title>
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	<description>Weblog of Wesley Fryer</description>
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		<title>By: Casting Out Nines&#187;Blog Archive &#187; iPods are evil. iPods are good.</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator>Casting Out Nines&#187;Blog Archive &#187; iPods are evil. iPods are good.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 14:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Put this story alongside this one, and you get an amusing/perplexing look at the mixed signals being sent by schools about technology. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Put this story alongside this one, and you get an amusing/perplexing look at the mixed signals being sent by schools about technology. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Board Blog &#187; Oooh, Scahhwwy Technology!</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Board Blog &#187; Oooh, Scahhwwy Technology!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#039;m catching up on some old links here. Both Wes Freyer and Robert Talbert point to a story out of Tennessee about a school board banning iPods in school. The quote about kids potentially carrying pornography on their iPods is pretty amusing. Of course that&#039;s a possibility, good grief! So is carrying a dirty mag in your backpack! Shut down the schools for decontamination now! Wipe out all student memory! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#39;m catching up on some old links here. Both Wes Freyer and Robert Talbert point to a story out of Tennessee about a school board banning iPods in school. The quote about kids potentially carrying pornography on their iPods is pretty amusing. Of course that&#39;s a possibility, good grief! So is carrying a dirty mag in your backpack! Shut down the schools for decontamination now! Wipe out all student memory! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup (23 April 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup (23 April 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally from Mike for this week is Fear and Disruptive Technologies in which he references good old Wes Fryer (well, he had to feature somewhere, didn&#8217;t he?!) in which the latter bemoans the &#8216;reactionary, statist&#8217; leaders of schools who have banned the use of iPods and other gadgetry students carry around with them everywhere nowadays. Interestingly, Mike mentions a conversation with Gary Brown, an Australian regional IT Director who had a rather different view from these American school leaders: At his schools, about 95% of the students had cell phones. Did they ban their use? No. They purchased a system to push school announcements out to the phones. Some of the teachers use them for quizzes (kind of like the &#8220;clicker&#8221; student response systems). Now 100% of their students have cell phones. Their cell phone abuse rate? According to Gary, 0%. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally from Mike for this week is Fear and Disruptive Technologies in which he references good old Wes Fryer (well, he had to feature somewhere, didn&#8217;t he?!) in which the latter bemoans the &#8216;reactionary, statist&#8217; leaders of schools who have banned the use of iPods and other gadgetry students carry around with them everywhere nowadays. Interestingly, Mike mentions a conversation with Gary Brown, an Australian regional IT Director who had a rather different view from these American school leaders: At his schools, about 95% of the students had cell phones. Did they ban their use? No. They purchased a system to push school announcements out to the phones. Some of the teachers use them for quizzes (kind of like the &#8220;clicker&#8221; student response systems). Now 100% of their students have cell phones. Their cell phone abuse rate? According to Gary, 0%. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Muir</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes - I&#039;m not surprised.  I think fear is a common reaction to new things that people don&#039;t really understand.  I wrote about fear as a reaction to innovation near the end of &lt;a href=&quot;http://everyonelearns.blogspot.com/2006/04/do-something-disruptive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do Something Disruptive&lt;/a&gt;, and earlier in &lt;a href=&quot;http://1to1stories.org/?p=18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Policy Choices and New Tools: to Block or not to Block&lt;/a&gt; in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://1to1stories.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1to1 Stories Project&lt;/a&gt;.  Based on the blogs I follow, here are my &lt;a href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/techmotivate/fear&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bookmarks&lt;/a&gt; on fear of disruptive technologies (as you could guess, a lot of articles about MySpace).

On the other hand, about a month ago, I had dinner with Gary Brown, IT Director for the Woolongong Diocese of Australia (that&#039;s about 125k kids - we get folks from all over to see Maine&#039;s laptop initiative.  He has a different approach.  At a meeting students and faculty at one of his schools, he asked the teachers how many of them had or knew someone who had a MySpace account (a few hands) then asked the kids the same question (all the hands).  His reaction?  He turned to the faculty and said that they did not understand their students!

At his schools, about 95% of the students had cell phones.  Did they ban their use?  No.  They purchased a system to push school announcements out to the phones.  Some of the teachers use them for quizzes (kind of like the &quot;clicker&quot; student response systems).  Now 100% of their students have cell phones.  Their cell phone abuse rate? According to Gary, 0%.

Why?  I suspect because instead of fearing a new technology he did not understand, he noticed that it was a tool used by his students, found out how it might be used for academic, or at least school, uses, and implemented them.

In Maine, we find that there is more breakage and off-task computer use when the teachers &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; use them for academic purposes.  Ironically, when we use them regularly for academic purposes, the machines stay in good working order and kids actually do homework during homework time, instead of whipping through their homework as fast as they can so they can surf the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes &#8211; I&#8217;m not surprised.  I think fear is a common reaction to new things that people don&#8217;t really understand.  I wrote about fear as a reaction to innovation near the end of <a href="http://everyonelearns.blogspot.com/2006/04/do-something-disruptive.html" rel="nofollow">Do Something Disruptive</a>, and earlier in <a href="http://1to1stories.org/?p=18" rel="nofollow">Policy Choices and New Tools: to Block or not to Block</a> in the <a href="http://1to1stories.org/" rel="nofollow">1to1 Stories Project</a>.  Based on the blogs I follow, here are my <a href="http://del.icio.us/techmotivate/fear" rel="nofollow">bookmarks</a> on fear of disruptive technologies (as you could guess, a lot of articles about MySpace).</p>
<p>On the other hand, about a month ago, I had dinner with Gary Brown, IT Director for the Woolongong Diocese of Australia (that&#8217;s about 125k kids &#8211; we get folks from all over to see Maine&#8217;s laptop initiative.  He has a different approach.  At a meeting students and faculty at one of his schools, he asked the teachers how many of them had or knew someone who had a MySpace account (a few hands) then asked the kids the same question (all the hands).  His reaction?  He turned to the faculty and said that they did not understand their students!</p>
<p>At his schools, about 95% of the students had cell phones.  Did they ban their use?  No.  They purchased a system to push school announcements out to the phones.  Some of the teachers use them for quizzes (kind of like the &#8220;clicker&#8221; student response systems).  Now 100% of their students have cell phones.  Their cell phone abuse rate? According to Gary, 0%.</p>
<p>Why?  I suspect because instead of fearing a new technology he did not understand, he noticed that it was a tool used by his students, found out how it might be used for academic, or at least school, uses, and implemented them.</p>
<p>In Maine, we find that there is more breakage and off-task computer use when the teachers <i>don&#8217;t</i> use them for academic purposes.  Ironically, when we use them regularly for academic purposes, the machines stay in good working order and kids actually do homework during homework time, instead of whipping through their homework as fast as they can so they can surf the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Casting Out Nines&#187;Blog Archive &#187; More technology bans in public schools</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Casting Out Nines&#187;Blog Archive &#187; More technology bans in public schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the same vein as this post on blog-banning, Moving at the Speed of Creativity has this story of a Tennessee school system that will soon be banning iPods from school property, including campuses and buses. From the news report: Supporters of the resolution, which passed unanimously, say students walking down school halls with headphones on are a distraction and that students need to be aware of their surroundings. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the same vein as this post on blog-banning, Moving at the Speed of Creativity has this story of a Tennessee school system that will soon be banning iPods from school property, including campuses and buses. From the news report: Supporters of the resolution, which passed unanimously, say students walking down school halls with headphones on are a distraction and that students need to be aware of their surroundings. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word up on your post. A trackback will be coming your way shortly. 

Curious: The quote from the first paragraph of the newspaper article says that the school system will be banning &quot;personal electronic devices &lt;strong&gt;like&lt;/strong&gt; iPods&quot;. Does that include devices such as PDA&#039;s, which are arguably quite useful for keeping track of assignment due dates and so forth, will be banned? Or how about convergence devices like the Treo, which combine the functionality of some devices that would be banned and others which would not? For that matter, what about laptops or tablet PC&#039;s, which could be used for listening to music while on the bus? It sounds to me that the school board is simply making a lay figure out of the iPod and in actuality they have no idea what it is they are trying to do, or even what the problem is they are trying to solve. 

I&#039;ve said it before on my blog: There&#039;s a disturbingly large number of school administrators and board members who would rather CONTROL students than EDUCATE them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word up on your post. A trackback will be coming your way shortly. </p>
<p>Curious: The quote from the first paragraph of the newspaper article says that the school system will be banning &#8220;personal electronic devices <strong>like</strong> iPods&#8221;. Does that include devices such as PDA&#8217;s, which are arguably quite useful for keeping track of assignment due dates and so forth, will be banned? Or how about convergence devices like the Treo, which combine the functionality of some devices that would be banned and others which would not? For that matter, what about laptops or tablet PC&#8217;s, which could be used for listening to music while on the bus? It sounds to me that the school board is simply making a lay figure out of the iPod and in actuality they have no idea what it is they are trying to do, or even what the problem is they are trying to solve. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before on my blog: There&#8217;s a disturbingly large number of school administrators and board members who would rather CONTROL students than EDUCATE them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you, David! Hopefully Anderson County is the exception rather than the rule around the country. Did you look at the iRiver as another option? I&#039;d love to hear how this project goes for you all, best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you, David! Hopefully Anderson County is the exception rather than the rule around the country. Did you look at the iRiver as another option? I&#8217;d love to hear how this project goes for you all, best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: David Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/04/20/reactionary-statist-school-leaders-ban-ipods/comment-page-1/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes,
How ironic! I just ordered 60, 30 Gigabyte MP3 players (Creative Zen Vision:M FOR OUR STUDENTS at our school.  Hello?
BTW, I am very pro apple but the Creative Vision:M  PC alternative is far superior, particularly for PC users (although I don&#039;t care too much for the whole &quot;Zen&quot; marketing.)
I think the issue is EDUCATION (more irony)! Yes, we now have to educate our school board, administrators, parents, etc. that an mp3 player is a vehicle, and/or tool.  A vehicle used in an appropriate way can exponentially educate an individual, and it can also be detrimental if used in an inappropriate way.  So is a gun.  &quot;Anderson County&quot; saw something &quot;dangerous&quot; and ran. A car can be  dangerous and &quot;disruptive&quot;...have they banned cars in Anderson County yet?  
Regards,
David Stone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes,<br />
How ironic! I just ordered 60, 30 Gigabyte MP3 players (Creative Zen Vision:M FOR OUR STUDENTS at our school.  Hello?<br />
BTW, I am very pro apple but the Creative Vision:M  PC alternative is far superior, particularly for PC users (although I don&#8217;t care too much for the whole &#8220;Zen&#8221; marketing.)<br />
I think the issue is EDUCATION (more irony)! Yes, we now have to educate our school board, administrators, parents, etc. that an mp3 player is a vehicle, and/or tool.  A vehicle used in an appropriate way can exponentially educate an individual, and it can also be detrimental if used in an inappropriate way.  So is a gun.  &#8220;Anderson County&#8221; saw something &#8220;dangerous&#8221; and ran. A car can be  dangerous and &#8220;disruptive&#8221;&#8230;have they banned cars in Anderson County yet?<br />
Regards,<br />
David Stone</p>
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