Comments on: Podcast72: Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging Options http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/ Weblog of Wesley Fryer Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » International educational blogging: Differences outside the US? http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-8370 Ideas and Thoughts from an EdTech » International educational blogging: Differences outside the US? Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:03:58 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-8370 [...] A few weeks ago I participated in an international skypecast about blogging tools, which involved around 25 people (not all educators, incidentally) from different parts of the world. We had North American participants from the US and Canada, and even a couple Australian voices in the dialog. [...] [...] A few weeks ago I participated in an international skypecast about blogging tools, which involved around 25 people (not all educators, incidentally) from different parts of the world. We had North American participants from the US and Canada, and even a couple Australian voices in the dialog. [...]

]]> By: MHetherington.net » Blog Archive » 3D Learning http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-8323 MHetherington.net » Blog Archive » 3D Learning Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:50:10 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-8323 [...] If last summer was the summer for early adoption of blog and podcast tools, In the web 2.0 world, this is the summer of voice messaging, skypecasting and video production. Three dimensional worlds such as Second Life are also gaining momentum, as the pace of change accelerates and just recent innovations such as music on IPODS, web pages and discussion boards look so 2004. [...] [...] If last summer was the summer for early adoption of blog and podcast tools, In the web 2.0 world, this is the summer of voice messaging, skypecasting and video production. Three dimensional worlds such as Second Life are also gaining momentum, as the pace of change accelerates and just recent innovations such as music on IPODS, web pages and discussion boards look so 2004. [...]

]]> By: davidfutch.com » Blog Archive » Nuggets of Knowledge July 16th http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-7356 davidfutch.com » Blog Archive » Nuggets of Knowledge July 16th Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:47:16 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-7356 [...] This weeks nuggets come on the heels of NECC in San Diego. After listening to recent podcast/skypecast from Wes Fryer’s Moving at the Speed of Creativity. I began to realize that the we are heading down the right path when it comes to creating a district blog. More specifically, what I am hearing is that there are plenty of wonderful edu-friendly blog sites out there on the web. However, after listening to the conversation one individual commented that the best senerio was to have your own district blog with total control over content and accessability. Fortunatly, with the cooperation of our IT department we have just that in our WordPress site. One of the many topics in the skypecast was how to connect your foreign language class to other spanish speaking students. One suggestion was to use epals.com to find other classes. Still yet another service is think.com (from the Orical people) [...] [...] This weeks nuggets come on the heels of NECC in San Diego. After listening to recent podcast/skypecast from Wes Fryer’s Moving at the Speed of Creativity. I began to realize that the we are heading down the right path when it comes to creating a district blog. More specifically, what I am hearing is that there are plenty of wonderful edu-friendly blog sites out there on the web. However, after listening to the conversation one individual commented that the best senerio was to have your own district blog with total control over content and accessability. Fortunatly, with the cooperation of our IT department we have just that in our WordPress site. One of the many topics in the skypecast was how to connect your foreign language class to other spanish speaking students. One suggestion was to use epals.com to find other classes. Still yet another service is think.com (from the Orical people) [...]

]]> By: Moving at the Speed of Creativity » Blog Archive » About being Canadian http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6795 Moving at the Speed of Creativity » Blog Archive » About being Canadian Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:59:00 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6795 [...] In the same way I’m intrigued about what others say about me, I’m also interested in what others say about my country. I pay close attention to dicussions outlining the differences between Americans and Canadians. Mark has already mentioned my blog being blocked by his district and even during last week’s Skypecast it was pointed out to me that here in Canada, we do not have the same restrictions with filtering, liability and other educational restrictions. [...] [...] In the same way I’m intrigued about what others say about me, I’m also interested in what others say about my country. I pay close attention to dicussions outlining the differences between Americans and Canadians. Mark has already mentioned my blog being blocked by his district and even during last week’s Skypecast it was pointed out to me that here in Canada, we do not have the same restrictions with filtering, liability and other educational restrictions. [...]

]]> By: Cheryl Oakes http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6787 Cheryl Oakes Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:20:40 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6787 Gordon, Well done! Gordon, Well done!

]]> By: Gordon Brune http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6783 Gordon Brune Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:43:42 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6783 I listened to the podcast of the SkypeCast and appreciated everyone's comments & thoughts. I felt pangs of regret for not joining in, but I thought Cheryl & Mark spoke very well of the ClassBlogmeister community for all of us! My lingering thoughts are the following: - It seems like James Farmer's Edublogs (for students) and LearnerBlogs (for teachers) and David Warlick's ClassBlogMeister tools are the way to go. They were set up with the k-12 students in mind from the get-go. They both seem to have the same levels of moderation and teachers can set them up thought the Internet without downloading and installing. This last point is important for a lot of teachers. I think the point will be moot in a few years when there a lot of really tech-savy ed-tech directors in schools (like Miguel!) but most teachers get lost within seconds unless the application can be easily accessible via the Internet. - The pros of edublogs for me right now is the ability to archive the entire blog from year-to-year. (Someone on the SkypeCast mentioned linking past year's blogs to the present year's blog.) ClassBlogmeister has the option to "orphan" past students. That is, their work is saved but does not appear on the live site. There are some ClassBlogMeister users that keep past students on the active roster but the list of students gets pretty long. - The second pro of edublogs for me is the ability to "hot link" text. That is, a student can key in text and highlight that text to link to an Internet site. When you use ClassBlogMeister you have to copy\paste the url which whacks out the layout a bit or copy\past the link into html that makes it "hot link." This is cumbersome for my 5th graders and I often do the html for them before approving the post with the link. This feature alone has had me looking elsewhere for another blogging tool! - Lastly and most importantly, I think the community of users is what is most important. I have stayed with ClassBlogMeister simply for the community of users that have supported my use of blogs in the classroom (via the yahoo ClassBlogMeister group) and my students. As Cheryl mentioned in the SkypeCast, many of us simply post our class page to the Yahoo group and other teachers set their kids to commenting! The community of users has been crucial to the success of blogs!! Someone asked what would be a good strat to using blogs? Safety issues is important, but you need to set up an audience for the kids' postings. An audience that is not just their teachers and their classmates but an audience from around the world. ClassBlogMeister has that community. Not sure if Edublogs does. (And from what I heard briefly from Think.com that has a vibrant community too but I want to have comments come in from anywhere -- as long as they're moderated!) The COMMUNITY of users trumps the features for me! I listened to the podcast of the SkypeCast and appreciated everyone’s comments & thoughts. I felt pangs of regret for not joining in, but I thought Cheryl & Mark spoke very well of the ClassBlogmeister community for all of us!

My lingering thoughts are the following:
- It seems like James Farmer’s Edublogs (for students) and LearnerBlogs (for teachers) and David Warlick’s ClassBlogMeister tools are the way to go. They were set up with the k-12 students in mind from the get-go. They both seem to have the same levels of moderation and teachers can set them up thought the Internet without downloading and installing. This last point is important for a lot of teachers. I think the point will be moot in a few years when there a lot of really tech-savy ed-tech directors in schools (like Miguel!) but most teachers get lost within seconds unless the application can be easily accessible via the Internet.
- The pros of edublogs for me right now is the ability to archive the entire blog from year-to-year. (Someone on the SkypeCast mentioned linking past year’s blogs to the present year’s blog.) ClassBlogmeister has the option to “orphan” past students. That is, their work is saved but does not appear on the live site. There are some ClassBlogMeister users that keep past students on the active roster but the list of students gets pretty long.
- The second pro of edublogs for me is the ability to “hot link” text. That is, a student can key in text and highlight that text to link to an Internet site. When you use ClassBlogMeister you have to copy\paste the url which whacks out the layout a bit or copy\past the link into html that makes it “hot link.” This is cumbersome for my 5th graders and I often do the html for them before approving the post with the link. This feature alone has had me looking elsewhere for another blogging tool!
- Lastly and most importantly, I think the community of users is what is most important. I have stayed with ClassBlogMeister simply for the community of users that have supported my use of blogs in the classroom (via the yahoo ClassBlogMeister group) and my students. As Cheryl mentioned in the SkypeCast, many of us simply post our class page to the Yahoo group and other teachers set their kids to commenting! The community of users has been crucial to the success of blogs!! Someone asked what would be a good strat to using blogs? Safety issues is important, but you need to set up an audience for the kids’ postings. An audience that is not just their teachers and their classmates but an audience from around the world. ClassBlogMeister has that community. Not sure if Edublogs does. (And from what I heard briefly from Think.com that has a vibrant community too but I want to have comments come in from anywhere — as long as they’re moderated!)

The COMMUNITY of users trumps the features for me!

]]> By: Cheryl Oakes http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6782 Cheryl Oakes Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:01:27 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6782 Mark, a thanks to you for starting the conversation! Yes, Wes, enjoy the family time. After all it is summer! Cheryl Mark, a thanks to you for starting the conversation! Yes, Wes, enjoy the family time. After all it is summer!
Cheryl

]]> By: Mark Ahlness - Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging... http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6775 Mark Ahlness - Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging... Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:22:54 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6775 "Just plain amazing. Here's a screenshot Wesley Fryer posted of his computer while hosting the Skypecast last night, Podcast72: Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging Options. How in the world he managed to do this while simultaneously turning mikes on and off, responding to instant messages and emails from several of us, deciding who should go next, guiding the conversation, and occasionally having a good idea of his own :) - is beyond me...." Wesley, I assume you were also watching the All Star Game and tucking the kids in.... Thanks for hosting a great conversation! Enjoy your time away. - Mark “Just plain amazing. Here’s a screenshot Wesley Fryer posted of his computer while hosting the Skypecast last night, Podcast72: Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging Options. How in the world he managed to do this while simultaneously turning mikes on and off, responding to instant messages and emails from several of us, deciding who should go next, guiding the conversation, and occasionally having a good idea of his own :) – is beyond me….”

Wesley, I assume you were also watching the All Star Game and tucking the kids in…. Thanks for hosting a great conversation! Enjoy your time away. – Mark

]]> By: Glenn E. Malone http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6761 Glenn E. Malone Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:37:09 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6761 I missed the live version...but this version was fantastic...I have contributed to the wiki. I'll make the next one. I missed the live version…but this version was fantastic…I have contributed to the wiki. I’ll make the next one.

]]> By: Bump on the Blog » Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging Tools: A Skypecast http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6758 Bump on the Blog » Pros and Cons of Educational Blogging Tools: A Skypecast Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:06:59 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6758 [...] Thanks Wes for organizing this conversation and for putting together the Blog Tools wiki. I’m looking forward to participating in more conversations via Skype; last night’s conversation was the first opportunity I have had to use the service.  My wheels began turning and my eyes were widened on what a useful and effective tool Skype can be to keep the conversation going. You can listen to the entire conversation below or by linking to Wesley’s post. [...] [...] Thanks Wes for organizing this conversation and for putting together the Blog Tools wiki. I’m looking forward to participating in more conversations via Skype; last night’s conversation was the first opportunity I have had to use the service.  My wheels began turning and my eyes were widened on what a useful and effective tool Skype can be to keep the conversation going. You can listen to the entire conversation below or by linking to Wesley’s post. [...]

]]> By: David Warlick http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6756 David Warlick Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:28:07 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6756 Sorry I missed the event. It was after 9:00 when I got back to my hotel room, and just plain tired. I'm listening to the podcast now and have already linked it, the blogs, and the wiki into the online handouts I'll be using in today's breakout session on Web 2.0. This really is amazing. Sorry I missed the event. It was after 9:00 when I got back to my hotel room, and just plain tired. I’m listening to the podcast now and have already linked it, the blogs, and the wiki into the online handouts I’ll be using in today’s breakout session on Web 2.0.

This really is amazing.

]]> By: Jo McLeay http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6755 Jo McLeay Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:50:00 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6755 Hi Wesley, just listening to your skypecast. Wish I had've been there. I've put up a link on the wiki for my year 8 class blog on learnerblogs. We have had a bit of a break but we'llbe back writing soon. It'd be great to get comments from some of the people who were in the skypecast in the next week or two. Great listening! Jo Hi Wesley,
just listening to your skypecast. Wish I had’ve been there. I’ve put up a link on the wiki for my year 8 class blog on learnerblogs. We have had a bit of a break but we’llbe back writing soon. It’d be great to get comments from some of the people who were in the skypecast in the next week or two. Great listening!
Jo

]]> By: Brett Moller http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/07/12/podcast72-pros-and-cons-of-educational-blogging-options/comment-page-1/#comment-6753 Brett Moller Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:21:28 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=1180#comment-6753 Hi Wes, Thanks for organising this... I had some really pressing questions answered. Still have questions but I guess that is what the Wiki is for? I have organised a skypecast for Thursday US time Friday my time. http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=131 for more info.... Thanks again, Brett Hi Wes,

Thanks for organising this… I had some really pressing questions answered. Still have questions but I guess that is what the Wiki is for? I have organised a skypecast for Thursday US time Friday my time. http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=131 for more info….

Thanks again,

Brett

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