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	<title>Comments on: China, WikiPedia, Flickr, Web 2.0 and The Tank Man</title>
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	<description>Weblog of Wesley Fryer</description>
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		<title>By: shmekerosu@</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/11/15/china-wikipedia-flickr-web-20-and-the-tank-man/comment-page-1/#comment-29839</link>
		<dc:creator>shmekerosu@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today China blocked again WIKIpedia ! as seen on tv... I read also on CNN.com website. You can fight censorship via proxy sites like: http://www.surfinter.net and http://www.hidemyway.com - it is easy and free, anonymous and also hides your IP address. You can also access wikipedia, myspace or other blocked sites from work or school. Also for myspace.com use http://www.msproxy.net ! Enjoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today China blocked again WIKIpedia ! as seen on tv&#8230; I read also on CNN.com website. You can fight censorship via proxy sites like: <a href="http://www.surfinter.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.surfinter.net</a> and <a href="http://www.hidemyway.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hidemyway.com</a> &#8211; it is easy and free, anonymous and also hides your IP address. You can also access wikipedia, myspace or other blocked sites from work or school. Also for myspace.com use <a href="http://www.msproxy.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.msproxy.net</a> ! Enjoy</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading from Xi&#039;an, China. I have noticed my WikiPedia access to be generally unimpeeded. On the other hand, as an expat with home internet access, I often find certain parts of sites become blocked after a couple visits (such as a privately run blog site). As far as I can tell this hasn&#039;t been the case for me with WikiPedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading from Xi&#8217;an, China. I have noticed my WikiPedia access to be generally unimpeeded. On the other hand, as an expat with home internet access, I often find certain parts of sites become blocked after a couple visits (such as a privately run blog site). As far as I can tell this hasn&#8217;t been the case for me with WikiPedia.</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wesley,
why read about tank man on wikipedia if you can watch it right here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igsW5yQ6428

Fast forward to to 5:57 time, proving once again the the Chinese governmen official version of the story has been the most consistent amongst the rest. I translate here in case you donâ€™t understand Chinese:

Democracy Activist said:
(Movie clip time:5:57)
Many people say that at Tiananmen square about 2,000 were shot or perhaps several hundred were
shot. On the square were tanks that crushed people and students etc. etc.
I would like to stress that I did not witness this a bit.I donâ€™t know where the other people witness this.
I was still there until 6:30, and I did not witness this.
I kept thinking: Is it necessary for us to use lies to fight the lies of our enemy?
Are the facts itself not strong enough? (clenches his fist)
If we use lies to attack our enemies that use lies, that will only satisfy our moment of anger.
But this is very dangerous because when your lies are exposed then from then on, you will have no power to defeat your enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wesley,<br />
why read about tank man on wikipedia if you can watch it right here?<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igsW5yQ6428" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igsW5yQ6428</a></p>
<p>Fast forward to to 5:57 time, proving once again the the Chinese governmen official version of the story has been the most consistent amongst the rest. I translate here in case you donâ€™t understand Chinese:</p>
<p>Democracy Activist said:<br />
(Movie clip time:5:57)<br />
Many people say that at Tiananmen square about 2,000 were shot or perhaps several hundred were<br />
shot. On the square were tanks that crushed people and students etc. etc.<br />
I would like to stress that I did not witness this a bit.I donâ€™t know where the other people witness this.<br />
I was still there until 6:30, and I did not witness this.<br />
I kept thinking: Is it necessary for us to use lies to fight the lies of our enemy?<br />
Are the facts itself not strong enough? (clenches his fist)<br />
If we use lies to attack our enemies that use lies, that will only satisfy our moment of anger.<br />
But this is very dangerous because when your lies are exposed then from then on, you will have no power to defeat your enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lih</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2006/11/15/china-wikipedia-flickr-web-20-and-the-tank-man/comment-page-1/#comment-29825</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Lih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley, interestingly this page loaded just fine for me in Beijing. Picture of Tank Man and all. 

However, in general those pages related to sensitive articles will still be subject to URL- and page-oriented blocking by keyword. So reading actual text about Tank Man, to accompany the picture, will be harder to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley, interestingly this page loaded just fine for me in Beijing. Picture of Tank Man and all. </p>
<p>However, in general those pages related to sensitive articles will still be subject to URL- and page-oriented blocking by keyword. So reading actual text about Tank Man, to accompany the picture, will be harder to do.</p>
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