Comments on: Using Google Notebook, Google Reader, and Firefox http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:25:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: And I for one welcome our Google overlords at StigmergicWeb http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30395 And I for one welcome our Google overlords at StigmergicWeb Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:46:42 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30395 [...] I’ve just been using Google Reader to read Wes Fryer’s Using Google Notebook, Google Reader, and Firefox and it made me think about how much I use Google, and how I use Google. Shortly after reading this, I was using Gmail to read and respond to an e-mail from Donna confirming our plans to work on another Ten Things to Know podcast, our next one being about Google services (and Google’s information dictatorship, but that’s another discussion). Google is everywhere in my life! A big chunk of my information is managed using Google through Gmail and Google Reader, not to mention the personalized Google home page. [...] [...] I’ve just been using Google Reader to read Wes Fryer’s Using Google Notebook, Google Reader, and Firefox and it made me think about how much I use Google, and how I use Google. Shortly after reading this, I was using Gmail to read and respond to an e-mail from Donna confirming our plans to work on another Ten Things to Know podcast, our next one being about Google services (and Google’s information dictatorship, but that’s another discussion). Google is everywhere in my life! A big chunk of my information is managed using Google through Gmail and Google Reader, not to mention the personalized Google home page. [...]

]]> By: Scott Elias http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30393 Scott Elias Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:59:55 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30393 On another note, I have been using Netvibes for a while but have been less than happy with it now that I have so many feeds. I dumped my OPML file into Google Reader and it looks promising! On another note, I have been using Netvibes for a while but have been less than happy with it now that I have so many feeds. I dumped my OPML file into Google Reader and it looks promising!

]]> By: Scott Elias http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30390 Scott Elias Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:43:55 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30390 Wesley - Thanks for sharing your tips! I am working with a science teacher right now on getting student collaborating and learning and Google Notebook is a GREAT tool. I played with it quite some time ago but your post has me inspired to give it another go. Scott Wesley -

Thanks for sharing your tips! I am working with a science teacher right now on getting student collaborating and learning and Google Notebook is a GREAT tool. I played with it quite some time ago but your post has me inspired to give it another go.

Scott

]]> By: Wesley Fryer http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30386 Wesley Fryer Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:27:49 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30386 I think we should regard all web 2.0 tools with a wary eye, since you are right: Free today does not mean free tomorrow. I have little doubt that with all the data harvesting Google does regularly, they are data harvesting with all the things people are doing with their tools. So I think even if you are not publicly sharing something with these tools, you shouldn't have the idea that everything there will or can be totally private. Web 2.0 tools have great power from their ability to share things publicly. If people need to keep things private, <a href="http://www.edsupport.cc/mguhlin/archives/2006/07/entry_1846.htm" rel="nofollow">Windows Privacy Tools</a> are a good option. <a href="http://www.pgpi.org/products/pgp/versions/freeware/" rel="nofollow">Free PGP</a> is also an option. When students choose to publicly share their Google Notebooks, it is a good idea for them to use aliases or just first names, not first and last names. We need to talk more about privacy issues with web 2.0 in the context of internet safety, but also global publishing. You all raise good issues here. I agree a cost/benefit analysis based on the individual case is the way to go, rather than boycotting powerful tools like these. I think we should regard all web 2.0 tools with a wary eye, since you are right: Free today does not mean free tomorrow. I have little doubt that with all the data harvesting Google does regularly, they are data harvesting with all the things people are doing with their tools. So I think even if you are not publicly sharing something with these tools, you shouldn’t have the idea that everything there will or can be totally private. Web 2.0 tools have great power from their ability to share things publicly. If people need to keep things private, Windows Privacy Tools are a good option. Free PGP is also an option.

When students choose to publicly share their Google Notebooks, it is a good idea for them to use aliases or just first names, not first and last names. We need to talk more about privacy issues with web 2.0 in the context of internet safety, but also global publishing. You all raise good issues here. I agree a cost/benefit analysis based on the individual case is the way to go, rather than boycotting powerful tools like these.

]]> By: Claudia Ceraso http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30385 Claudia Ceraso Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:19:53 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30385 Wesley, Thank you for sharing your notes. I have been experimenting with Google Notebook over the weekend and it will certainly be useful for my next paper organisation. I am using it with the browser add-on for Firefox, so it automatically creates a link to the site I am reading. Perhaps combined with notes on webpages done in diigo socialbookmarks it'll be great. http://www.diigo.com/sign-up/ Reading the previous comment, yes, privacy is a concern. But I guess you always have to measure the risks against the benefits. These new tools allow me to share with colleagues at university as well as my students in ways I had not thought possible two years ago! Fear to publish is not the answer. Deciding whether the benefits outweigh the risks is a kind of web literacy, don't you think? Best, Claudia fceblog on del.icio.us Wesley,

Thank you for sharing your notes. I have been experimenting with Google Notebook over the weekend and it will certainly be useful for my next paper organisation.
I am using it with the browser add-on for Firefox, so it automatically creates a link to the site I am reading. Perhaps combined with notes on webpages done in diigo socialbookmarks it’ll be great.
http://www.diigo.com/sign-up/

Reading the previous comment, yes, privacy is a concern. But I guess you always have to measure the risks against the benefits. These new tools allow me to share with colleagues at university as well as my students in ways I had not thought possible two years ago!

Fear to publish is not the answer. Deciding whether the benefits outweigh the risks is a kind of web literacy, don’t you think?

Best,

Claudia
fceblog on del.icio.us

]]> By: Leif harboe http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30384 Leif harboe Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:14:49 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30384 Are you not afraid to kind of leave your digital life in the hands of the mighty Google giant? They say "Do no evil", I also use many of their tools - but still - I am a bit concerned. Many of Google's tools are free. Well - there is a say that there is no free lunch. What kind of strings are attached to Google's free gifts? Friendly greetings from Norway Leif Are you not afraid to kind of leave your digital life in the hands of the mighty Google giant? They say “Do no evil”, I also use many of their tools - but still - I am a bit concerned. Many of Google’s tools are free. Well - there is a say that there is no free lunch. What kind of strings are attached to Google’s free gifts?
Friendly greetings from
Norway
Leif

]]> By: Pratheep http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30383 Pratheep Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:44:52 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/21/using-google-notebook-google-reader-and-firefox/#comment-30383 I too like google notebook, but more than than i love Bookmarks in the new google toolbar. do you have any comments on it :) I too like google notebook, but more than than i love Bookmarks in the new google toolbar. do you have any comments on it :)

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