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	<title>Comments on: Encouragement for prime movers and catalysts</title>
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	<description>Weblog of Wesley Fryer</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel Guhlin</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/03/13/encouragement-for-prime-movers-and-catalysts/comment-page-1/#comment-31592</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Guhlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Durff, there is a simple answer to the fuel problem. Set yourself on fire...while you may think your source of creativity is exhaustible, it&#039;s not...your creativity, your spirit are inexhaustible.

Miguel Guhlin
Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net
http://www.mguhlin.net

P.S. Wes, thanks for highlighting that quote. I&#039;d forgotten I wrote it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Durff, there is a simple answer to the fuel problem. Set yourself on fire&#8230;while you may think your source of creativity is exhaustible, it&#8217;s not&#8230;your creativity, your spirit are inexhaustible.</p>
<p>Miguel Guhlin<br />
Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net<br />
<a href="http://www.mguhlin.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.mguhlin.net</a></p>
<p>P.S. Wes, thanks for highlighting that quote. I&#8217;d forgotten I wrote it!</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/03/13/encouragement-for-prime-movers-and-catalysts/comment-page-1/#comment-31589</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs Durf: The sentiment you hear from those students is common, I think, that&#039;s what we condition students to think school is about, esp by the time they get into high school and college. Where is the passion, and where are the questions? All too often we&#039;ve squashed their curiosity and learning passion from them early on. I think that is what many people sadly call &quot;getting them ready for high school&quot; or &quot;getting them ready for college.&quot; Sit and get learning, with little interaction: a transaction of time and minimal effort for a grade on a piece of paper that says you&#039;ve learned. This is why we need school 2.0!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Durf: The sentiment you hear from those students is common, I think, that&#8217;s what we condition students to think school is about, esp by the time they get into high school and college. Where is the passion, and where are the questions? All too often we&#8217;ve squashed their curiosity and learning passion from them early on. I think that is what many people sadly call &#8220;getting them ready for high school&#8221; or &#8220;getting them ready for college.&#8221; Sit and get learning, with little interaction: a transaction of time and minimal effort for a grade on a piece of paper that says you&#8217;ve learned. This is why we need school 2.0!</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/03/13/encouragement-for-prime-movers-and-catalysts/comment-page-1/#comment-31588</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

Thanks for the link to Coventi Pages, I watched the video and looks really powerful, especially the commenting feature which organizes conversations. I&#039;m in a project now where we&#039;re using Google Documents, and I don&#039;t think it supports that type of comment and conversation function. I signed up for an account and will use it for the next collaborative document I need to edit and share with others! Then I&#039;ll report on what I think on my blog. I appreciate the link and background info. Nice work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to Coventi Pages, I watched the video and looks really powerful, especially the commenting feature which organizes conversations. I&#8217;m in a project now where we&#8217;re using Google Documents, and I don&#8217;t think it supports that type of comment and conversation function. I signed up for an account and will use it for the next collaborative document I need to edit and share with others! Then I&#8217;ll report on what I think on my blog. I appreciate the link and background info. Nice work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/03/13/encouragement-for-prime-movers-and-catalysts/comment-page-1/#comment-31585</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley,

I&#039;ve been checking out your posts promoting novel collaboration practices and web 2.0 in education, and wanted to let you know about what my startup is doing. We think our web application, Coventi Pages, has serious potential for educational use.

It&#039;s a full-featured online word processor with discussion features that go way beyond current &quot;comment&quot; offerings and have the potential to change the way people work together on documents. At Stanford University, we&#039;re finding that instructors really like it for giving feedback to students, and that students find it useful for peer reviews and group projects.

Coventi was founded by Stanford Computer Science students and is advised by Stanford Profs. Terry Winograd (Advisor to Larry Page on the &quot;Page Rank&quot; paper) and Fred Gibbons (Founder, Software Publishing Corp.).

Here&#039;s a link to a quick demo video:

http://www.coventi.com/videos/IntroToPages.aspx

Accounts are free right now so it&#039;s a great time to give it a try. If you do, please let me know what you think!

Thanks so much,

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been checking out your posts promoting novel collaboration practices and web 2.0 in education, and wanted to let you know about what my startup is doing. We think our web application, Coventi Pages, has serious potential for educational use.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a full-featured online word processor with discussion features that go way beyond current &#8220;comment&#8221; offerings and have the potential to change the way people work together on documents. At Stanford University, we&#8217;re finding that instructors really like it for giving feedback to students, and that students find it useful for peer reviews and group projects.</p>
<p>Coventi was founded by Stanford Computer Science students and is advised by Stanford Profs. Terry Winograd (Advisor to Larry Page on the &#8220;Page Rank&#8221; paper) and Fred Gibbons (Founder, Software Publishing Corp.).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a quick demo video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.coventi.com/videos/IntroToPages.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.coventi.com/videos/IntroToPages.aspx</a></p>
<p>Accounts are free right now so it&#8217;s a great time to give it a try. If you do, please let me know what you think!</p>
<p>Thanks so much,</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Durf</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/03/13/encouragement-for-prime-movers-and-catalysts/comment-page-1/#comment-31583</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With new exploration, we need to be teaching ethics for dealing with influx of information.  BTW, I interviewed on Monday for a summer job and was disappointed when I was told a) they don&#039;t have student computers or internet b) blogging is not writing.  You can probably figure how I feel about these statements. I guess summer school is not for me (sigh).
You quote Miguel:
&quot;...let their voices, that of the learners, ring throughout our schools, voices that speak of relevance, authenticity, and human connectionsâ€¦in ways that cannot be denied.&quot;
But I am hearing from kids, give me the grade, get me out of here, and let me get on with my life. Somehow, we need to work really hard to move beyond this Web 1.0 mentality. I find it to be a roadblock...Not only does it take a spark to initiate a fire, but it takes fuel to keep it going. I&#039;m having trouble fueling that which I spark, although a few sparks have taken so far. Just not enough.
I appreciate being able to connect with your thoughts, even as I am stuck away from home in PA on a friend&#039;s computer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With new exploration, we need to be teaching ethics for dealing with influx of information.  BTW, I interviewed on Monday for a summer job and was disappointed when I was told a) they don&#8217;t have student computers or internet b) blogging is not writing.  You can probably figure how I feel about these statements. I guess summer school is not for me (sigh).<br />
You quote Miguel:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;let their voices, that of the learners, ring throughout our schools, voices that speak of relevance, authenticity, and human connectionsâ€¦in ways that cannot be denied.&#8221;<br />
But I am hearing from kids, give me the grade, get me out of here, and let me get on with my life. Somehow, we need to work really hard to move beyond this Web 1.0 mentality. I find it to be a roadblock&#8230;Not only does it take a spark to initiate a fire, but it takes fuel to keep it going. I&#8217;m having trouble fueling that which I spark, although a few sparks have taken so far. Just not enough.<br />
I appreciate being able to connect with your thoughts, even as I am stuck away from home in PA on a friend&#8217;s computer&#8230;.</p>
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