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		<title>By: Karen Janowski</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/08/16/real-versus-fake-learning-experiences/#comment-39875</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Janowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points in your post and in the comments.  

Matt, as a parent as well as an educator I so appreciate your honesty about how you fare on Wes's litmus test.  It's a daily struggle.  (Another way to view it is, if my own kids were in this class, would they be engaged by how I am teaching?)
Regarding your questions about specifically teaching math, I recommend reading Alfie Kohn's book, The Schools Our Children Deserve.  He devotes one of the chapters to math instruction and you will find it enlightening and geared to answering your questions. Great book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points in your post and in the comments.  </p>
<p>Matt, as a parent as well as an educator I so appreciate your honesty about how you fare on Wes&#8217;s litmus test.  It&#8217;s a daily struggle.  (Another way to view it is, if my own kids were in this class, would they be engaged by how I am teaching?)<br />
Regarding your questions about specifically teaching math, I recommend reading Alfie Kohn&#8217;s book, The Schools Our Children Deserve.  He devotes one of the chapters to math instruction and you will find it enlightening and geared to answering your questions. Great book!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I agree with you that our schools are marred with far too much fake learning. I love your litmus test of whether or not something is real learning. When I read it, my mouth practically dropped thinking of all the things that I teach that I would not want to be a part of ... I am embarrassed to say that some of the things I teach are not even engaging to teach, let alone engaging to learn. It is, of course, a constant journey, looking for ways to improve my teaching and move towards more "real" learning experiences.

My friction with this is, is there a realistic balance between "real" and "fake" learning? Can we turn everything into something so engaging that we would want to participate in, or are there some things that, at least for some students, are not going to be engaging but are important enough to learn.

 I am thinking a lot about math lately, and many math activities might fit what you call "fake" learning. I know that my fourth graders need to learn their multiplication facts. Even with all this technology around us, multiplication facts are something that, I believe, people still need to know. Now, some student may be engaged by the way that I teach and we practice our facts, but for some, it just isn't engaging. Does the benefit of learning sometimes outweigh the need to engage students? Do we just need to work harder to find a way to engage the students, or does the cost of doing so outweigh the marginal benefit?

Perhaps this is where games or competition might come into play. A video game might easily turn something rote like fact learning into something more fun and engaging. 

Until then, I continue on the quest for real learning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I agree with you that our schools are marred with far too much fake learning. I love your litmus test of whether or not something is real learning. When I read it, my mouth practically dropped thinking of all the things that I teach that I would not want to be a part of &#8230; I am embarrassed to say that some of the things I teach are not even engaging to teach, let alone engaging to learn. It is, of course, a constant journey, looking for ways to improve my teaching and move towards more &#8220;real&#8221; learning experiences.</p>
<p>My friction with this is, is there a realistic balance between &#8220;real&#8221; and &#8220;fake&#8221; learning? Can we turn everything into something so engaging that we would want to participate in, or are there some things that, at least for some students, are not going to be engaging but are important enough to learn.</p>
<p> I am thinking a lot about math lately, and many math activities might fit what you call &#8220;fake&#8221; learning. I know that my fourth graders need to learn their multiplication facts. Even with all this technology around us, multiplication facts are something that, I believe, people still need to know. Now, some student may be engaged by the way that I teach and we practice our facts, but for some, it just isn&#8217;t engaging. Does the benefit of learning sometimes outweigh the need to engage students? Do we just need to work harder to find a way to engage the students, or does the cost of doing so outweigh the marginal benefit?</p>
<p>Perhaps this is where games or competition might come into play. A video game might easily turn something rote like fact learning into something more fun and engaging. </p>
<p>Until then, I continue on the quest for real learning!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo all of your thoughts about creating real learning experiences for children in the classroom!  I make every effor to create authentic learning for all of my students as I juggle the curriculum.  I would love to hear about more authors, people or organizations that provide more examples about how to make this happen in our classrooms.

Our brand new superintendent, just hired this summer, has a PHD in differentiating instruction.  I'm sure these ideas of differentiating and creating real reasons in the classrooms gel together. I would love to know of any other reading I could do about real learning experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo all of your thoughts about creating real learning experiences for children in the classroom!  I make every effor to create authentic learning for all of my students as I juggle the curriculum.  I would love to hear about more authors, people or organizations that provide more examples about how to make this happen in our classrooms.</p>
<p>Our brand new superintendent, just hired this summer, has a PHD in differentiating instruction.  I&#8217;m sure these ideas of differentiating and creating real reasons in the classrooms gel together. I would love to know of any other reading I could do about real learning experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can take a "field trip" everyday. I take 5 minute field trips in my science class. Talking about condensation? Lets go look at the clouds. Pour some water on the ground (in our 112 degree heat) and see how long it takes to evaporate. We use Google Earth to visit a setting from our reading class, or to see ridges, valleys and basins to connect again with the water cycle. A ton of aquariums and museums have live web cameras (Monterey Bay Aquarium has some really good ones). Yes, these aren't the same "hands on" learning as a real field trip, and shouldn't be used instead of actual field trips, but they can be good learning experiences. They are definitely more engaging than reading from the text books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can take a &#8220;field trip&#8221; everyday. I take 5 minute field trips in my science class. Talking about condensation? Lets go look at the clouds. Pour some water on the ground (in our 112 degree heat) and see how long it takes to evaporate. We use Google Earth to visit a setting from our reading class, or to see ridges, valleys and basins to connect again with the water cycle. A ton of aquariums and museums have live web cameras (Monterey Bay Aquarium has some really good ones). Yes, these aren&#8217;t the same &#8220;hands on&#8221; learning as a real field trip, and shouldn&#8217;t be used instead of actual field trips, but they can be good learning experiences. They are definitely more engaging than reading from the text books.</p>
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