Comments on: What of Learning Signal? http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/ Weblog of Wesley Fryer Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harold Jarche http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41454 Harold Jarche Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:20:47 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41454 So far I think that Learning Signal is providing a service to the community, and readers are not forced to click on ads, so I won't ask them to take down my feed at this time. So far I think that Learning Signal is providing a service to the community, and readers are not forced to click on ads, so I won’t ask them to take down my feed at this time.

]]> By: Christy Tucker http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41453 Christy Tucker Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:59:32 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41453 Harold, there's definitely gray area for noncommercial, but I would think that someone with ads on their site would probably be commercial rather than noncommercial. With Human Capital, they were breaking both parts of your license: attribution and noncommercial. Because they made it seem like they owned the content by putting it behind a registration wall, they weren't really giving you clear attribution. Rereading my comment from the time, I believe they're commercial as well. If you think Learning Signal is a valuable service and the links actually bring traffic to your site, then it's probably not worth asking them to take it down. If you have a concern with someone else making money from your content though (as implied by the NC part of the license), then you should ask them to take it down. Harold, there’s definitely gray area for noncommercial, but I would think that someone with ads on their site would probably be commercial rather than noncommercial.

With Human Capital, they were breaking both parts of your license: attribution and noncommercial. Because they made it seem like they owned the content by putting it behind a registration wall, they weren’t really giving you clear attribution. Rereading my comment from the time, I believe they’re commercial as well.

If you think Learning Signal is a valuable service and the links actually bring traffic to your site, then it’s probably not worth asking them to take it down. If you have a concern with someone else making money from your content though (as implied by the NC part of the license), then you should ask them to take it down.

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41449 Harold Jarche Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:59:29 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41449 My website is under a CC-NC license, so is LearningSignal in contravention of copyright by publishing my stuff? My unprofessional opinion is that it's OK because all of the information is public. In another situation, I asked a content aggregator to remove my feed: http://www.jarche.com/?p=1188 My website is under a CC-NC license, so is LearningSignal in contravention of copyright by publishing my stuff? My unprofessional opinion is that it’s OK because all of the information is public. In another situation, I asked a content aggregator to remove my feed:
http://www.jarche.com/?p=1188

]]> By: Wesley Fryer http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41411 Wesley Fryer Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:14:36 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41411 I hadn't heard of the term <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcat" rel="nofollow">lolcat</a> before, John. Thanks for introducing me to that one. I think you are right, Christy. The Learning Signal folks certainly ARE attributing sources well, and are not doing disingenuous things like I've seen on other sites that grab content. I'm glad to be on their attention radar screen and those of others, and I am appreciative of their link-back attribution. I've considered changing the license terms to CC-NC but haven't because I have an as-yet unproven but still strong faith in the long term value of people having greater access to my ideas. I think the "old media" way of controlling content will be less relevant in the Internet environment. Maybe I'm wrong about that, I'm not sure. Thanks to you both for your comments. I hadn’t heard of the term lolcat before, John. Thanks for introducing me to that one.

I think you are right, Christy. The Learning Signal folks certainly ARE attributing sources well, and are not doing disingenuous things like I’ve seen on other sites that grab content. I’m glad to be on their attention radar screen and those of others, and I am appreciative of their link-back attribution. I’ve considered changing the license terms to CC-NC but haven’t because I have an as-yet unproven but still strong faith in the long term value of people having greater access to my ideas. I think the “old media” way of controlling content will be less relevant in the Internet environment. Maybe I’m wrong about that, I’m not sure.

Thanks to you both for your comments.

]]> By: Christy Tucker http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41410 Christy Tucker Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:58:56 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41410 Learning Signal makes it clear where the original content is coming from and links back to you. I kind of feel like this is just part of having a blog and being out there. I'm frustrated by the ones who don't link back to me, or worse, attribute my content to someone else's name. If the information is accurate though, I figure that's part of the deal with having a CC-By license. I might consider changing mine to CC-NC if I found it bothersome, but I wouldn't worry about this one. The fact that they told you in advance does show that they're a step above the splogs. Learning Signal makes it clear where the original content is coming from and links back to you. I kind of feel like this is just part of having a blog and being out there. I’m frustrated by the ones who don’t link back to me, or worse, attribute my content to someone else’s name. If the information is accurate though, I figure that’s part of the deal with having a CC-By license. I might consider changing mine to CC-NC if I found it bothersome, but I wouldn’t worry about this one. The fact that they told you in advance does show that they’re a step above the splogs.

]]> By: John Pederson http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/comment-page-1/#comment-41409 John Pederson Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:40:43 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/10/01/what-of-learning-signal/#comment-41409 Throw in an occasional lolcat. It might shake them. Throw in an occasional lolcat. It might shake them.

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