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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/15/wrestling-with-website-registration-limits/#comment-45629</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the hardest road to take in parenting regarding technology is the middle one--use with supervision and limits. I also think it's usually the best road for most kids. So, hats off to you for really thinking this one through. The one minefield I've been wary of for my own 10-year-old is YouTube. I try and hover closely when he's visiting. YouTube does have a system for flagging adult content--which then can only be viewed by those 18 or older--but it relies on users to do the flagging. So, I'm thinking there may be content I wouldn't want my son to see that is new enough that it hasn't been flagged yet, or that adults viewing wouldn't consider offensive but would be considered so through the eyes of a parent. For example, I've seen at least one video in which the graphics were fine, but the audio was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the hardest road to take in parenting regarding technology is the middle one&#8211;use with supervision and limits. I also think it&#8217;s usually the best road for most kids. So, hats off to you for really thinking this one through. The one minefield I&#8217;ve been wary of for my own 10-year-old is YouTube. I try and hover closely when he&#8217;s visiting. YouTube does have a system for flagging adult content&#8211;which then can only be viewed by those 18 or older&#8211;but it relies on users to do the flagging. So, I&#8217;m thinking there may be content I wouldn&#8217;t want my son to see that is new enough that it hasn&#8217;t been flagged yet, or that adults viewing wouldn&#8217;t consider offensive but would be considered so through the eyes of a parent. For example, I&#8217;ve seen at least one video in which the graphics were fine, but the audio was not.</p>
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		<title>By: ??? &#62; OLDaily ??? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007?12?16? ?????e-learning????????????OLPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>??? &#62; OLDaily ??? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007?12?16? ?????e-learning????????????OLPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Travian ????????????????“Travian???????????????????????????????????????”???????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Wesley Fryer.The game has been around since 2005 or so. Various Authors, Website December 16, 2007 [????] [??: Gaming] [????] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Robb</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification.  I agree exactly with you're saying.  Maybe I just happen to be lucky that a parent hasn't confronted me about inappropriate websites but I know it happens; I just haven't experienced it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification.  I agree exactly with you&#8217;re saying.  Maybe I just happen to be lucky that a parent hasn&#8217;t confronted me about inappropriate websites but I know it happens; I just haven&#8217;t experienced it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/15/wrestling-with-website-registration-limits/#comment-45343</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: It's good students are held responsible for their decisions about where they go online. I think it's fair to say that is the case in most schools, so my comment may need more explanation. It seems to me that many parents assume if their students (or other students) go places they shouldn't online at school, then that is the school's fault and the content filter isn't strict enough. The assumption seems to be (at least in many cases, and I acknowledge this is a general perception on my part that is not backed up by research or evidence) that the school should have a more strict content filter to deal with off task or inappropriate student use of the Internet. MySpace and YouTube are examples. I've been in schools where administrators and teachers have praised their content filter for keeping students off YouTube. Rather than deal with student choices and behavior on an individual basis, the school has chosen to simply block sites. This is true of instant messaging software as a general rule too. Most schools seem to assume that IM software has no instructional or valid use in school, it's use would be frivolous and therefore inappropriate in all contexts, so it is blocked as both an application and a website destination on the network.

Those are examples of educator perceptions of how to handle appropriate Internet use by students, and a general preference I see for using the content filter to block websites rather than deal with student behavior choices and hold students accountable for their decisions. On the parent side, I have heard of cases where parents are angry "at the school" when their child has accessed something they should not, rather than holding their own child accountable for their actions. This is probably a more general issue, where many parents today (or at least "some," maybe the word "many" isn't justified) are very confrontational with school officials and tend to place blame for problems on the school in virtually every case, rather than holding their own children accountable. That personality type or accountability orientation type is certainly not the general rule for everyone, so maybe I am overgeneralizing. I do think our emphasis in schools needs to be more on individual accountability for our actions, where we choose to go online, rather than viewing cases of inappropriate student use of the Internet as fundamentally a problem that needs to be solved with a stricter content filter. I think our schools need systems where individual website use is documented with virtual breadcrumbs by login, and that list of accessed websites is viewable by both parents and teachers, as well as individual students for their own virtual online "history." Systems like PowerSchool which allow parent and student access to attendance records and grades should be upgraded to permit access to individual login histories. Certainly proxy sites can and are used to bypass a system like this, but this system would show the use of proxy sites-- and conversations should then ensue about why a proxy site is being used by the student in question. I don't know of any schools currently using a system like this for online behavior accountability, but I think schools should be, certainly schools that are 1:1, but also others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: It&#8217;s good students are held responsible for their decisions about where they go online. I think it&#8217;s fair to say that is the case in most schools, so my comment may need more explanation. It seems to me that many parents assume if their students (or other students) go places they shouldn&#8217;t online at school, then that is the school&#8217;s fault and the content filter isn&#8217;t strict enough. The assumption seems to be (at least in many cases, and I acknowledge this is a general perception on my part that is not backed up by research or evidence) that the school should have a more strict content filter to deal with off task or inappropriate student use of the Internet. MySpace and YouTube are examples. I&#8217;ve been in schools where administrators and teachers have praised their content filter for keeping students off YouTube. Rather than deal with student choices and behavior on an individual basis, the school has chosen to simply block sites. This is true of instant messaging software as a general rule too. Most schools seem to assume that IM software has no instructional or valid use in school, it&#8217;s use would be frivolous and therefore inappropriate in all contexts, so it is blocked as both an application and a website destination on the network.</p>
<p>Those are examples of educator perceptions of how to handle appropriate Internet use by students, and a general preference I see for using the content filter to block websites rather than deal with student behavior choices and hold students accountable for their decisions. On the parent side, I have heard of cases where parents are angry &#8220;at the school&#8221; when their child has accessed something they should not, rather than holding their own child accountable for their actions. This is probably a more general issue, where many parents today (or at least &#8220;some,&#8221; maybe the word &#8220;many&#8221; isn&#8217;t justified) are very confrontational with school officials and tend to place blame for problems on the school in virtually every case, rather than holding their own children accountable. That personality type or accountability orientation type is certainly not the general rule for everyone, so maybe I am overgeneralizing. I do think our emphasis in schools needs to be more on individual accountability for our actions, where we choose to go online, rather than viewing cases of inappropriate student use of the Internet as fundamentally a problem that needs to be solved with a stricter content filter. I think our schools need systems where individual website use is documented with virtual breadcrumbs by login, and that list of accessed websites is viewable by both parents and teachers, as well as individual students for their own virtual online &#8220;history.&#8221; Systems like PowerSchool which allow parent and student access to attendance records and grades should be upgraded to permit access to individual login histories. Certainly proxy sites can and are used to bypass a system like this, but this system would show the use of proxy sites&#8211; and conversations should then ensue about why a proxy site is being used by the student in question. I don&#8217;t know of any schools currently using a system like this for online behavior accountability, but I think schools should be, certainly schools that are 1:1, but also others.</p>
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		<title>By: David Robb</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your approach to handling your son's online activities is an excellent model of balance.  You are giving Alexander the opportunity to explore and, in turn, the chance to seek out knowledge that benefits him while still keeping an eye on his online activities.

However, I don't know if I agree with you that administrators and teachers are held "solely" responsible for the appropriateness of websites students access.  If students are purposefully going on websites they shouldn't I would think that would be equivalent to any other act of insubordination and the student would be held accountable for their actions, not the teacher.  At least that's how it would work at my school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your approach to handling your son&#8217;s online activities is an excellent model of balance.  You are giving Alexander the opportunity to explore and, in turn, the chance to seek out knowledge that benefits him while still keeping an eye on his online activities.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t know if I agree with you that administrators and teachers are held &#8220;solely&#8221; responsible for the appropriateness of websites students access.  If students are purposefully going on websites they shouldn&#8217;t I would think that would be equivalent to any other act of insubordination and the student would be held accountable for their actions, not the teacher.  At least that&#8217;s how it would work at my school.</p>
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		<title>By: ParentalTech - The tech blog for parents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is it OK to lie about your age online?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ParentalTech - The tech blog for parents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is it OK to lie about your age online?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is an interesting question. Many websites that have content that would be interesting to a 12 year old will not let a 12 year register with the site. I believe it&#8217;s mostly related to the COPPA Act. YouTube simply won&#8217;t accept the registration, Yahoo will only accept it if it&#8217;s tied to an adult&#8217;s account. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is an interesting question. Many websites that have content that would be interesting to a 12 year old will not let a 12 year register with the site. I believe it&#8217;s mostly related to the COPPA Act. YouTube simply won&#8217;t accept the registration, Yahoo will only accept it if it&#8217;s tied to an adult&#8217;s account. [...]</p>
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