Comments on: Understanding the way forward for copyright reformers http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/ Weblog of Wesley Fryer Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Understanding the way forward for copyright reformers · Internet blog http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-46060 Understanding the way forward for copyright reformers · Internet blog Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:39:39 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-46060 [...] post by Wesley Fryer and software by Elliott [...] [...] post by Wesley Fryer and software by Elliott [...]

]]> By: » Blog Archive » Good Reads http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-45895 » Blog Archive » Good Reads Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:36:09 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-45895 [...] Understanding the way forward for copyright reformers Another interesting look at copyright issues and the ‘new’ moralities. This one from Wes Fryer, who provides a bunch of links extending this conversation into the arguement that the current state of law restricts creativity. Details some of the work of Dr. Lawrence Lessing advocating increased usage of open licensing in digital media creation. [...] [...] Understanding the way forward for copyright reformers Another interesting look at copyright issues and the ‘new’ moralities. This one from Wes Fryer, who provides a bunch of links extending this conversation into the arguement that the current state of law restricts creativity. Details some of the work of Dr. Lawrence Lessing advocating increased usage of open licensing in digital media creation. [...]

]]> By: Eric Hoefler http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-45885 Eric Hoefler Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:57:38 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-45885 Thanks for your thoughts here, and for the additional resources! Thanks for your thoughts here, and for the additional resources!

]]> By: Rodd Lucier http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-45884 Rodd Lucier Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:06:12 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-45884 Lessig's talk is compelling as are most of the TED talks. I find that rather than YouTube, Lessig's and other TED talks offer superior online viewing in clear panoramic at http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/187 Lessig’s talk is compelling as are most of the TED talks. I find that rather than YouTube, Lessig’s and other TED talks offer superior online viewing in clear panoramic at http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/187

]]> By: Mathew http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-45873 Mathew Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:06:53 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-45873 The TED talk is awesome. Thanks for sharing it. I agree with everything except...it's one thing if kids put remixes on their own web site without any commercial gain. However, when students put videos with copyrighted music on Youtube, it IS for profit even if students don't see any of that profit. Google certainly is posting record profits. (And students won't want to put videos on their own sites if they want to reach a wide audience). I think Creative Commons is an excellent way of handling copyright. However, I think we also need a streamlined way of paying for mechanical rights (the right to use copyrighted music in a video). As it stands now it's not always easy to determine who owns rights and get their permission. Wouldn't you pay .25 cents to a dollar to use a copyrighted song legitimately in a youtube clip if you knew how to pay it? Or shouldn't google be paying it since what it's doing is akin to radio playing copyrighted songs and selling advertising? Radio pays ASCAP/BMI for the right to all songs which is proportionately spread out among artists. We need something like this for youtube as well. The TED talk is awesome. Thanks for sharing it.

I agree with everything except…it’s one thing if kids put remixes on their own web site without any commercial gain. However, when students put videos with copyrighted music on Youtube, it IS for profit even if students don’t see any of that profit. Google certainly is posting record profits. (And students won’t want to put videos on their own sites if they want to reach a wide audience).

I think Creative Commons is an excellent way of handling copyright. However, I think we also need a streamlined way of paying for mechanical rights (the right to use copyrighted music in a video). As it stands now it’s not always easy to determine who owns rights and get their permission. Wouldn’t you pay .25 cents to a dollar to use a copyrighted song legitimately in a youtube clip if you knew how to pay it? Or shouldn’t google be paying it since what it’s doing is akin to radio playing copyrighted songs and selling advertising? Radio pays ASCAP/BMI for the right to all songs which is proportionately spread out among artists. We need something like this for youtube as well.

]]> By: Alec Couros http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/comment-page-1/#comment-45869 Alec Couros Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:41:00 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/12/22/understanding-the-way-forward-for-copyright-reformers/#comment-45869 I've been watching many of the TED talks lately streaming from my laptop, through my Wii, to my TV. It's interesting how many options there are now, direct, streamed or otherwise. Certainly, how we will use our televisions in the future is already changing. Most of the TED talks are high quality and available in iPod format already, and are much better quality than the Youtube version. I know it's a big difference when viewing on my iPod Touch. I blogged about this particular Lessig talk sometime ago (http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/692), and while much of the talk is similar to his previous, the last few minutes are the most worthwhile to me. I love this last piece. "We can't kill the instinct that technology produces, you can only criminalize it. We can't stop kids from using it, we can only drive it underground. We can't make our kids passive again, we can only make them "pirates". And is that good? We live in this weird time, an age of prohibitions, where in many areas of our life, we live life constantly against the law. Ordinary people live life against the law. And that's what we are doing to our kids. They live life knowing they live it against the law. That realization is extraordinarily corrosive, extraordinarily corrupting, and in a democracy, we ought to be able to do better, do better at least for them, if not for opening for business." I’ve been watching many of the TED talks lately streaming from my laptop, through my Wii, to my TV. It’s interesting how many options there are now, direct, streamed or otherwise. Certainly, how we will use our televisions in the future is already changing.

Most of the TED talks are high quality and available in iPod format already, and are much better quality than the Youtube version. I know it’s a big difference when viewing on my iPod Touch.

I blogged about this particular Lessig talk sometime ago (http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/692), and while much of the talk is similar to his previous, the last few minutes are the most worthwhile to me. I love this last piece.

“We can’t kill the instinct that technology produces, you can only criminalize it. We can’t stop kids from using it, we can only drive it underground. We can’t make our kids passive again, we can only make them “pirates”. And is that good? We live in this weird time, an age of prohibitions, where in many areas of our life, we live life constantly against the law. Ordinary people live life against the law. And that’s what we are doing to our kids. They live life knowing they live it against the law. That realization is extraordinarily corrosive, extraordinarily corrupting, and in a democracy, we ought to be able to do better, do better at least for them, if not for opening for business.”

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