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	<title>Comments on: Apple says NO to NECC 2008 vendor floor</title>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Sandifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Sandifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley,

I forget who I was speaking with regarding this issue, but someone mentioned a new Apple policy regarding conferences that involves only sending regional employees to the conferences to conduct the training sessions.  I can't confirm this, but I wonder if someone else can confirm it.  If true, then I could see it making sense due to the increasing cost of fuel.

However, there is still the visibility issue -- especially at an education/edtech conference.  You brought up some good points in this post and I'll be curious to see how Apple continues to address their presence at these kinds of conferences.

Stephanie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley,</p>
<p>I forget who I was speaking with regarding this issue, but someone mentioned a new Apple policy regarding conferences that involves only sending regional employees to the conferences to conduct the training sessions.  I can&#8217;t confirm this, but I wonder if someone else can confirm it.  If true, then I could see it making sense due to the increasing cost of fuel.</p>
<p>However, there is still the visibility issue &#8212; especially at an education/edtech conference.  You brought up some good points in this post and I&#8217;ll be curious to see how Apple continues to address their presence at these kinds of conferences.</p>
<p>Stephanie</p>
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		<title>By: riley couger</title>
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		<dc:creator>riley couger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed Apple although I can understand the decision. I always learn "something" at the Apple booth I want to run back and share. I guess I could have figured out how to get a schedule of the sessions but there is something about the excitement at a trade show. If a vendor really believes in a product,program, idea, etc you can tell and feed off of their positive energy and ask questions you need to. I've from east west nowhere and TCEA &#38; NECC is one of the times I count on that chance for face time. Someone implied it is time for the demise of trade shows. I am human and when it comes to a point I'd rather interact with keyboard and screen than another human not only trade shows but everyone is doomed. Maybe that is what is wrong. Have we forgotten the human element in educational technology? Aren't in it for the students?  Do we rely on software that merely raises test scores? Apple was always a leader in the old notion of ain't this cool, look what I can do. Excitement at NECC was seeing Roger Wagner again and knowing that HyperStudio lives on. W/o people computers just go off/on, off/on,off/on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed Apple although I can understand the decision. I always learn &#8220;something&#8221; at the Apple booth I want to run back and share. I guess I could have figured out how to get a schedule of the sessions but there is something about the excitement at a trade show. If a vendor really believes in a product,program, idea, etc you can tell and feed off of their positive energy and ask questions you need to. I&#8217;ve from east west nowhere and TCEA &amp; NECC is one of the times I count on that chance for face time. Someone implied it is time for the demise of trade shows. I am human and when it comes to a point I&#8217;d rather interact with keyboard and screen than another human not only trade shows but everyone is doomed. Maybe that is what is wrong. Have we forgotten the human element in educational technology? Aren&#8217;t in it for the students?  Do we rely on software that merely raises test scores? Apple was always a leader in the old notion of ain&#8217;t this cool, look what I can do. Excitement at NECC was seeing Roger Wagner again and knowing that HyperStudio lives on. W/o people computers just go off/on, off/on,off/on</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim: I heard some very positive feedback from others also about the workshops Apple offered at NECC. One advantage of Apple having those sessions in a separate room, not on the vendor floor, was that people were not able to sit down and not leave-- a problem in the past with showfloor sessions at times when others wanted a seat.

Change is always difficult, and I guess I fall into that frame of wanting some things (like Apple being on the vendor floor) to stay the same. I think you are right, this has everything to do with ROI and finding more effective ways to reach and influence teachers than vendor floor booths.

It will be interesting to see if other vendors follow suit down the road... I think Apple is in a unique situation now because of their commercial stores in lots of places. Did you see how HUGE the Cisco and Verizon booths were this year? I wonder how much those cost?

If vendors support NECC less, it could change the nature of the conference in fundamental ways, and that could turn out to be a good thing. Personally I think the conference should be very learning focused versus vendor and commercial sale focused. The conference means many things to different people and groups, and it certainly WAS and IS a learning conference primarily for me. It will be interesting to see how things evolve on the vendor side, however.

Apple is led by very smart people and certainly this decision was not made carelessly or unintentionally. I think I can better understand now the reasons for it, and although I wish Apple still had a vendor floor presence, I am glad they are still present / available at the conference and providing opportunities for educators to learn about new applications/hardware in workshops. The context has changed, but the presence and commitment on the part of Apple to education is still strong. That is the key. And I am very glad of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: I heard some very positive feedback from others also about the workshops Apple offered at NECC. One advantage of Apple having those sessions in a separate room, not on the vendor floor, was that people were not able to sit down and not leave&#8211; a problem in the past with showfloor sessions at times when others wanted a seat.</p>
<p>Change is always difficult, and I guess I fall into that frame of wanting some things (like Apple being on the vendor floor) to stay the same. I think you are right, this has everything to do with ROI and finding more effective ways to reach and influence teachers than vendor floor booths.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see if other vendors follow suit down the road&#8230; I think Apple is in a unique situation now because of their commercial stores in lots of places. Did you see how HUGE the Cisco and Verizon booths were this year? I wonder how much those cost?</p>
<p>If vendors support NECC less, it could change the nature of the conference in fundamental ways, and that could turn out to be a good thing. Personally I think the conference should be very learning focused versus vendor and commercial sale focused. The conference means many things to different people and groups, and it certainly WAS and IS a learning conference primarily for me. It will be interesting to see how things evolve on the vendor side, however.</p>
<p>Apple is led by very smart people and certainly this decision was not made carelessly or unintentionally. I think I can better understand now the reasons for it, and although I wish Apple still had a vendor floor presence, I am glad they are still present / available at the conference and providing opportunities for educators to learn about new applications/hardware in workshops. The context has changed, but the presence and commitment on the part of Apple to education is still strong. That is the key. And I am very glad of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't surprised or disappointed by Apple going missing on the exhibit floor.  It's very expensive to rent a small patch of real estate and erect a small house for three days.  I think it's smart on their part to spend their marketing money elsewhere.

For example, they typically would spend most of their floor space on a classroom to show off their software.  This year they did that in some quieter rooms just off a very heavily trafficed corridor.  They also loaned dozens of iMacs for the workshop rooms.

Then there were the many, many presenters who were doing sessions based around iMovie, GarageBand, and other Apple products.  Probably the best, and least expensive, advertising.  Of course, NECC will be in trouble if other vendors decide to do the same thing. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t surprised or disappointed by Apple going missing on the exhibit floor.  It&#8217;s very expensive to rent a small patch of real estate and erect a small house for three days.  I think it&#8217;s smart on their part to spend their marketing money elsewhere.</p>
<p>For example, they typically would spend most of their floor space on a classroom to show off their software.  This year they did that in some quieter rooms just off a very heavily trafficed corridor.  They also loaned dozens of iMacs for the workshop rooms.</p>
<p>Then there were the many, many presenters who were doing sessions based around iMovie, GarageBand, and other Apple products.  Probably the best, and least expensive, advertising.  Of course, NECC will be in trouble if other vendors decide to do the same thing. <img src='http://www.speedofcreativity.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Amy Strecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Strecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is disappointing!  Hopefully things will change for next year.

(PS -- if you're looking for a bright spot in SA, check out Rosario's for their fish tacos -- amazing!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is disappointing!  Hopefully things will change for next year.</p>
<p>(PS &#8212; if you&#8217;re looking for a bright spot in SA, check out Rosario&#8217;s for their fish tacos &#8212; amazing!)</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/30/apple-says-no-to-necc-2008-vendor-floor/#comment-55126</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After talking with several others today, James, I think I see that point. Someone observed that perhaps the iPod and now iPhone, as well as Apple Stores, have led to significant market penetration for Apple and they don't see the return on investment (ROI) being there for trade shows. Apparently Avid has made the same decision in at least one other case.

The bottom line is I'm sad to not see Apple on the vendor floor at NECC. I love Apple and Apple products, I think they are best in class, and I miss the chance to learn more about them at the National Educational Computing Conference.

I want to be clear that this post was NOT in any way intended as a "flame" to Apple. Certainly I disagree with this decision and wish it would be changed, but having that opinion should not and hopefully will not be interpreted as a "flame post." Those were the words I heard at NECC from some folks.

I'm mainly sad that Apple made this decision. I was trying to articulate that feeling intelligently in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After talking with several others today, James, I think I see that point. Someone observed that perhaps the iPod and now iPhone, as well as Apple Stores, have led to significant market penetration for Apple and they don&#8217;t see the return on investment (ROI) being there for trade shows. Apparently Avid has made the same decision in at least one other case.</p>
<p>The bottom line is I&#8217;m sad to not see Apple on the vendor floor at NECC. I love Apple and Apple products, I think they are best in class, and I miss the chance to learn more about them at the National Educational Computing Conference.</p>
<p>I want to be clear that this post was NOT in any way intended as a &#8220;flame&#8221; to Apple. Certainly I disagree with this decision and wish it would be changed, but having that opinion should not and hopefully will not be interpreted as a &#8220;flame post.&#8221; Those were the words I heard at NECC from some folks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m mainly sad that Apple made this decision. I was trying to articulate that feeling intelligently in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: James Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple realized that spending millions of dollars for a trade show booth was a waste of money.  It did not sell Macs.
Yes, it is fun to talk with the tech staff and get demos.  But it still did not sell Macs. Bottom line.

If you wan to talk to Apple staff, go to MacWorld!  That is the Mecca for Macintoshes.
Otherwise, trek on to the local Apple Store several times and join a Mac User Group.

Apple has transformed itself into a ubiquitous brand.
It doesn't need specific and expensive trade shows that do little to advance its platforms.

Trade shows have become archaic in the era of the internet.
Apple knows that.
Numerous large vendors know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple realized that spending millions of dollars for a trade show booth was a waste of money.  It did not sell Macs.<br />
Yes, it is fun to talk with the tech staff and get demos.  But it still did not sell Macs. Bottom line.</p>
<p>If you wan to talk to Apple staff, go to MacWorld!  That is the Mecca for Macintoshes.<br />
Otherwise, trek on to the local Apple Store several times and join a Mac User Group.</p>
<p>Apple has transformed itself into a ubiquitous brand.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t need specific and expensive trade shows that do little to advance its platforms.</p>
<p>Trade shows have become archaic in the era of the internet.<br />
Apple knows that.<br />
Numerous large vendors know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Learning Aloud - NECC Vendor Area</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/30/apple-says-no-to-necc-2008-vendor-floor/#comment-55059</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Aloud - NECC Vendor Area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the web, I personally have picked up less and less. One interesting item this year was that Apple did not have a presence in the exhibit hall. Apple has always had one of the largest displays in square feet and perhaps [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tina Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes - as evidenced by the EdubloggerCon at NECC08, almost everyone I saw had an Apple. After NECC07, I went out and bought one last year, and this year, our whole TechDept are buying Apples and going to run both Mac OS and Windows OS, just to prove how great Apples are in Education.  See the photo of the row of teachers I took using all the Apples the first day of NECC08. I took this picture to take back to my school and show my administrators how much educators love Apples!

http://picasaweb.google.com/tinamsteele/NECC08/photo#5217454556054671906</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes - as evidenced by the EdubloggerCon at NECC08, almost everyone I saw had an Apple. After NECC07, I went out and bought one last year, and this year, our whole TechDept are buying Apples and going to run both Mac OS and Windows OS, just to prove how great Apples are in Education.  See the photo of the row of teachers I took using all the Apples the first day of NECC08. I took this picture to take back to my school and show my administrators how much educators love Apples!</p>
<p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/tinamsteele/NECC08/photo#5217454556054671906" rel="nofollow">http://picasaweb.google.com/tinamsteele/NECC08/photo#5217454556054671906</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/30/apple-says-no-to-necc-2008-vendor-floor/#comment-55035</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade shows are a waste of Money and time. The millions that Apple spends on trade shows would be better spend doing regional seminars for educators. Maybe that is what they are trying to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade shows are a waste of Money and time. The millions that Apple spends on trade shows would be better spend doing regional seminars for educators. Maybe that is what they are trying to do.</p>
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		<title>By: John Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/30/apple-says-no-to-necc-2008-vendor-floor/#comment-55034</link>
		<dc:creator>John Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree, I was disappointed.  I did notice some Apple Education sponsored learning sessions right around the corner from where Edublooggercon was held, for those who are at NECC.

I too am an apple fan.  I have been to the Apple store here in San Antonio a few times, but don't have one anywhere near my home in Amarillo.  I wish that that would have had an NECC Presence.  I would have liked to ask them a few questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree, I was disappointed.  I did notice some Apple Education sponsored learning sessions right around the corner from where Edublooggercon was held, for those who are at NECC.</p>
<p>I too am an apple fan.  I have been to the Apple store here in San Antonio a few times, but don&#8217;t have one anywhere near my home in Amarillo.  I wish that that would have had an NECC Presence.  I would have liked to ask them a few questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Dumont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Dumont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was part of a corporate wide decision to not participate in many trade shows this year. If you look back at other shows that Apple usually participates heavily in they were not there either. This includes huge trade shows such as NAMM and NAB. I don't necessarily agree with the decision, for the reasons Wes states above, but it was a decision that I believe was made far above Apple Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was part of a corporate wide decision to not participate in many trade shows this year. If you look back at other shows that Apple usually participates heavily in they were not there either. This includes huge trade shows such as NAMM and NAB. I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with the decision, for the reasons Wes states above, but it was a decision that I believe was made far above Apple Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also was surprised when I heard that Apple was not at going to be at NECC and has scaled back their booths at other conferences.  I was told by an Apple rep that part of the decision was based on that they did not generate actual sales from their presence on the floor. Doesn't make sense to me.I would think people curious about their products have the potential to generated future sales.  Thanks for a great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also was surprised when I heard that Apple was not at going to be at NECC and has scaled back their booths at other conferences.  I was told by an Apple rep that part of the decision was based on that they did not generate actual sales from their presence on the floor. Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.I would think people curious about their products have the potential to generated future sales.  Thanks for a great post!</p>
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		<title>By: John Hendron</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hendron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That explains it! I kept looking down there on Sunday, wondering where "the Apple Booth" is??

Oh well, they don't need to sell to us, we are a 100% Macintosh district, but it does seem silly to bow out at this opportunity when folks are FINALLY making some decisions to consider Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That explains it! I kept looking down there on Sunday, wondering where &#8220;the Apple Booth&#8221; is??</p>
<p>Oh well, they don&#8217;t need to sell to us, we are a 100% Macintosh district, but it does seem silly to bow out at this opportunity when folks are FINALLY making some decisions to consider Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: craigr</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was curious why I didn't see Apple listed as a NECC exhibitor.  Now I know why.  As a long time Apple user this is a huge disappointment. With gas prices the way they are, I will be making far fewer trips to the nearest Apple Store back home, which is two hours away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was curious why I didn&#8217;t see Apple listed as a NECC exhibitor.  Now I know why.  As a long time Apple user this is a huge disappointment. With gas prices the way they are, I will be making far fewer trips to the nearest Apple Store back home, which is two hours away.</p>
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