Comments on: Nancy Willard on CyberSafety Issues: Notes from Safe and Healthy Schools 2008 Oklahoma http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/11/10/nancy-willard-on-cybersafety-issues-notes-from-safe-and-healthy-schools-2008-oklahoma/ Weblog of Wesley Fryer Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: George D. http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/11/10/nancy-willard-on-cybersafety-issues-notes-from-safe-and-healthy-schools-2008-oklahoma/comment-page-1/#comment-61571 George D. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:50:14 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=3177#comment-61571 In response to cmitton: I do appreciate the notion of focusing on open lines of communication. I have used many of these safety programs in my classroom and their goal is to strengthen communication between adults and youth. These safety programs create the foundation in which to have these open forms of communication. Without them in place, how do you suggest we facilitate these conversations? In response to cmitton: I do appreciate the notion of focusing on open lines of communication. I have used many of these safety programs in my classroom and their goal is to strengthen communication between adults and youth. These safety programs create the foundation in which to have these open forms of communication. Without them in place, how do you suggest we facilitate these conversations?

]]> By: cmitton http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/11/10/nancy-willard-on-cybersafety-issues-notes-from-safe-and-healthy-schools-2008-oklahoma/comment-page-1/#comment-61519 cmitton Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:08:18 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=3177#comment-61519 Several lines in your notes really made me think. Specifically, the idea that those who are the most at-risk online are also the most at-risk offline really resonates. It makes sense to me, but it’s not an idea that I’ve ever thought about in depth before—and I think it’s something that administrators and parents need to hear and think about as well. That information coupled with some of the facts from <a href="http://www.netcaucus.org/events/2007/youth/20070503transcript.pdf" rel="nofollow">this</a> testimony is contradictory to everything I’ve heard so far. If programs like DARE are ineffective, does that mean the NetSmartz, iSafe, etc. are also a waste of instructional time? Would we be better off building strong, open communication lines between students and adults so that they are more likely to share instances of cyber bullying, stalking, harassment, etc? I’m really rethinking how I teach internet safety to my students now! Several lines in your notes really made me think. Specifically, the idea that those who are the most at-risk online are also the most at-risk offline really resonates. It makes sense to me, but it’s not an idea that I’ve ever thought about in depth before—and I think it’s something that administrators and parents need to hear and think about as well.

That information coupled with some of the facts from this testimony is contradictory to everything I’ve heard so far. If programs like DARE are ineffective, does that mean the NetSmartz, iSafe, etc. are also a waste of instructional time? Would we be better off building strong, open communication lines between students and adults so that they are more likely to share instances of cyber bullying, stalking, harassment, etc? I’m really rethinking how I teach internet safety to my students now!

]]> By: Mark Ahlness http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/11/10/nancy-willard-on-cybersafety-issues-notes-from-safe-and-healthy-schools-2008-oklahoma/comment-page-1/#comment-61320 Mark Ahlness Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:51:50 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=3177#comment-61320 Heard this years ago. Leading with fear nets a very different result than leading with promise and potential. Ugh. - Mark Heard this years ago. Leading with fear nets a very different result than leading with promise and potential. Ugh. – Mark

]]> By: arvind http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/11/10/nancy-willard-on-cybersafety-issues-notes-from-safe-and-healthy-schools-2008-oklahoma/comment-page-1/#comment-61315 arvind Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:39:13 +0000 http://www.speedofcreativity.org/?p=3177#comment-61315 Wes, thanks for these great notes. I know how hard it is to take notes while a panel is going on. This reaffirms much of what I've been trying to say to administrators and parents over the last couple of years. The "big" experts are all saying this, and have been for some time now: http://www.21apples.org/articles/2007/05/16/the-real-truth-about-teens-and-online-social-networks and they're finally getting more traction. The real trouble has always been kids who are getting into trouble. The computer, the Internet, has little to do with it. The no documented cases line is also very interesting, and not at all what many law enforcement officers have said during presentations I've watched. That's mainly because they're involved in sting investigations luring people in. They've never mentioned real cases where they caught perpetrators, per se. Wes, thanks for these great notes. I know how hard it is to take notes while a panel is going on. This reaffirms much of what I’ve been trying to say to administrators and parents over the last couple of years. The “big” experts are all saying this, and have been for some time now:
http://www.21apples.org/articles/2007/05/16/the-real-truth-about-teens-and-online-social-networks
and they’re finally getting more traction.

The real trouble has always been kids who are getting into trouble. The computer, the Internet, has little to do with it.

The no documented cases line is also very interesting, and not at all what many law enforcement officers have said during presentations I’ve watched. That’s mainly because they’re involved in sting investigations luring people in. They’ve never mentioned real cases where they caught perpetrators, per se.

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