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	<title>Comments on: The Thursday Folder and Worksheet Measured Learning</title>
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	<description>Weblog of Wesley Fryer</description>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-85999</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my high poverty area I feel that giving homework to students just for the sake of giving homework has little value.  Most poverty kids don&#039;t have the resources at home to get the help they need on their work. Most leave it home or don&#039;t get it completed.  I feel it adds to the negative attitudes that many kids have towards school.  I think it is great whenever teachers can use technology to increase the value of homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my high poverty area I feel that giving homework to students just for the sake of giving homework has little value.  Most poverty kids don&#8217;t have the resources at home to get the help they need on their work. Most leave it home or don&#8217;t get it completed.  I feel it adds to the negative attitudes that many kids have towards school.  I think it is great whenever teachers can use technology to increase the value of homework.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Head Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the post and just referenced it at my blog &quot;Middle School Monkeys&quot; (middleschoolmonkeys.com). Great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the post and just referenced it at my blog &#8220;Middle School Monkeys&#8221; (middleschoolmonkeys.com). Great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my eleven years of teaching I have significantly cut back on the number of pieces of paper I use in a given year. I feel that we are all using our time (and resources) in many better ways now.

That said, I do struggle with how best to communicate my first grade students&#039; learning to their parents. I teach in a community in which very few families have computers. We do make VoiceThreads and movies and such, but many of my families have now way to see them. I am lucky to have three computers in my classroom (counting my laptop) and a lab available, but that is often not true. Do you have any advice on how to deal with these issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my eleven years of teaching I have significantly cut back on the number of pieces of paper I use in a given year. I feel that we are all using our time (and resources) in many better ways now.</p>
<p>That said, I do struggle with how best to communicate my first grade students&#8217; learning to their parents. I teach in a community in which very few families have computers. We do make VoiceThreads and movies and such, but many of my families have now way to see them. I am lucky to have three computers in my classroom (counting my laptop) and a lab available, but that is often not true. Do you have any advice on how to deal with these issues?</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Chesnut</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-78131</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Chesnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley,
This question is a little off topic... but I was wondering if anyone else is noticing...
At least in my kids&#039; schools...
* Teachers don&#039;t go over these worksheets in class!?!

My youngest (6th grader) brings home his &quot;Wednesday Folder&quot; and has no idea how he&#039;s done on the papers inside.

His older sister (11th grader) has had classes where they are given test review worksheets.  They fill them out and then they are taken up on the day of the test.

Somewhere we seem to have lost the whole concept of feedback (... except for grades).  Is this common?  new?

Regards,
Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley,<br />
This question is a little off topic&#8230; but I was wondering if anyone else is noticing&#8230;<br />
At least in my kids&#8217; schools&#8230;<br />
* Teachers don&#8217;t go over these worksheets in class!?!</p>
<p>My youngest (6th grader) brings home his &#8220;Wednesday Folder&#8221; and has no idea how he&#8217;s done on the papers inside.</p>
<p>His older sister (11th grader) has had classes where they are given test review worksheets.  They fill them out and then they are taken up on the day of the test.</p>
<p>Somewhere we seem to have lost the whole concept of feedback (&#8230; except for grades).  Is this common?  new?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Kent</p>
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		<title>By: kirsti</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-78023</link>
		<dc:creator>kirsti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son just started kindergarten and we get the friday folders. Unaccustomed as I am, having not been raised in the States, I was not sure what to do with them. So I kept them, we review them sometimes if he wants, I think about things he needs to work on and we try to do that but I have asked several friends what they do with theirs. They do the same as Wes. I am looking forward to showing them to my mother in NZ and my mother in law in France. I too believe social media tools and the kinds of learning they carry with them are incredibly important to our kids..... and we need to recycle the paper. But perhaps most importantly, we need to think about what are kids are learning to do..... because I teach college and it ain&#039;t pretty.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son just started kindergarten and we get the friday folders. Unaccustomed as I am, having not been raised in the States, I was not sure what to do with them. So I kept them, we review them sometimes if he wants, I think about things he needs to work on and we try to do that but I have asked several friends what they do with theirs. They do the same as Wes. I am looking forward to showing them to my mother in NZ and my mother in law in France. I too believe social media tools and the kinds of learning they carry with them are incredibly important to our kids&#8230;.. and we need to recycle the paper. But perhaps most importantly, we need to think about what are kids are learning to do&#8230;.. because I teach college and it ain&#8217;t pretty&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Fothergill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Fothergill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post made me stop and think about how many worksheets my kids might get during a week. I think I&#039;m doing ok - some weeks they get NO worksheets (even though they like them). but mostly they get worksheets to support their learning: for example if a small group has been working on &quot;counting on&quot; they may then go and do some independent work via a worksheet to reinforce what they&#039;ve just been doing with me. I am moving slowly into using other ways to demonstrate learning. (I see another video coming up!)

Thanks for the thoughtful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post made me stop and think about how many worksheets my kids might get during a week. I think I&#8217;m doing ok &#8211; some weeks they get NO worksheets (even though they like them). but mostly they get worksheets to support their learning: for example if a small group has been working on &#8220;counting on&#8221; they may then go and do some independent work via a worksheet to reinforce what they&#8217;ve just been doing with me. I am moving slowly into using other ways to demonstrate learning. (I see another video coming up!)</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wes...

Thanks for engaging with me on this... I would imagine that for many, the temptation would have been to delete my comment and move along...

To respond to you thoughts:

...I get that you are trying to make changes but honestly, what is more likely to change your children&#039;s classroom experiences: blogging about the teacher in hopes s/he reads it, takes it constructively and then makes meaningful changes or actually approaching the teacher and talking about it?  My guess is that many people that read your blog are really already in transition mode.  If the school your students are in seems to be missing the shift, it seems awfully hopeful to think they will change without action on the part of passionate advocates.

...What is distasteful for me about your approach?  Well, for me it goes back to the problem with educational criticism in general.  I read your blog and I think you are a smart, well-meaning guy, but you are still taking an outsider position of the school, seemingly without consequence.  Let me explain.  You ask if it my problem with the post is the critical nature.  No, absolutely not.  I think criticism is important in any activity and even if I disagreed with your point, I think disagreement is often the path to enlightenment.  (Somewhat related: I believe schools suffer from a problem that staff members are encouraged NOT to disagree and often ostracize those with alternative views.  This leads to school stagnating.)  My problem is that you are critical in a forum where there isn&#039;t any implication to you taking such views.  It is easy to criticize (constructively or not... I think your post was generally constructive... and though I understood what you were referring to as stupid, would you really say that to the teacher&#039;s face?  my guess is no, so perhaps it doesn&#039;t meet the test tasteful) when you are speaking to a crowd that will largely agree with you... but what tone would you take when you are talking to your child&#039;s teacher?  Will you say exactly what you said in the original post?

My guess is that the elementary school in question is similar to many across the nation.  The teachers there are well-meaning and are probably solid professionals.  Or... it could be that you there are a number of just bad teachers there who don&#039;t give a damn (sadly, it is my experience that there are more of the bad than we could want or imagine).  Either way, I can&#039;t imagine those professionals reading this post and thinking &quot;wow!  wes is right!  i am going to go ahead and change my pedagogy right now!&quot;... You seem to think the case is hopeless... &quot;I won’t be holding my breath that the result will be transformative, pedagogic change in her classroom, however, or in the school building more generally.&quot;  What makes you think that the many other classrooms in the same position would be any different?  It is hard, I know, to watch the incremental changes in schools but only through working together for positive, cooperation action, will we all see the changes that seem to be necessary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wes&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for engaging with me on this&#8230; I would imagine that for many, the temptation would have been to delete my comment and move along&#8230;</p>
<p>To respond to you thoughts:</p>
<p>&#8230;I get that you are trying to make changes but honestly, what is more likely to change your children&#8217;s classroom experiences: blogging about the teacher in hopes s/he reads it, takes it constructively and then makes meaningful changes or actually approaching the teacher and talking about it?  My guess is that many people that read your blog are really already in transition mode.  If the school your students are in seems to be missing the shift, it seems awfully hopeful to think they will change without action on the part of passionate advocates.</p>
<p>&#8230;What is distasteful for me about your approach?  Well, for me it goes back to the problem with educational criticism in general.  I read your blog and I think you are a smart, well-meaning guy, but you are still taking an outsider position of the school, seemingly without consequence.  Let me explain.  You ask if it my problem with the post is the critical nature.  No, absolutely not.  I think criticism is important in any activity and even if I disagreed with your point, I think disagreement is often the path to enlightenment.  (Somewhat related: I believe schools suffer from a problem that staff members are encouraged NOT to disagree and often ostracize those with alternative views.  This leads to school stagnating.)  My problem is that you are critical in a forum where there isn&#8217;t any implication to you taking such views.  It is easy to criticize (constructively or not&#8230; I think your post was generally constructive&#8230; and though I understood what you were referring to as stupid, would you really say that to the teacher&#8217;s face?  my guess is no, so perhaps it doesn&#8217;t meet the test tasteful) when you are speaking to a crowd that will largely agree with you&#8230; but what tone would you take when you are talking to your child&#8217;s teacher?  Will you say exactly what you said in the original post?</p>
<p>My guess is that the elementary school in question is similar to many across the nation.  The teachers there are well-meaning and are probably solid professionals.  Or&#8230; it could be that you there are a number of just bad teachers there who don&#8217;t give a damn (sadly, it is my experience that there are more of the bad than we could want or imagine).  Either way, I can&#8217;t imagine those professionals reading this post and thinking &#8220;wow!  wes is right!  i am going to go ahead and change my pedagogy right now!&#8221;&#8230; You seem to think the case is hopeless&#8230; &#8220;I won’t be holding my breath that the result will be transformative, pedagogic change in her classroom, however, or in the school building more generally.&#8221;  What makes you think that the many other classrooms in the same position would be any different?  It is hard, I know, to watch the incremental changes in schools but only through working together for positive, cooperation action, will we all see the changes that seem to be necessary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.welearnathome.com/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gary Stager&lt;/a&gt; might say, that&#039;s a lot of full frontal teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. As <a href="http://www.welearnathome.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">Gary Stager</a> might say, that&#8217;s a lot of full frontal teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: JRCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the issue is time and “accountability”. In our school district teachers are required to teach no less than 300 minutes a day. This is because the administration feels that students only learn when a teacher is in front of a class. Our contract only calls for 2 and ½ hours planning time each week. That’s 25 hours of “teaching” with 2 ½ ours of planning. 
I am not endorsing the use of worksheets but the administration of our district is not encouraging creative teaching with this type of scheduling. My schedule next year will be 10 half hour classes a day, 800 students a week. Factory style teaching at its best, the students better fit the mold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the issue is time and “accountability”. In our school district teachers are required to teach no less than 300 minutes a day. This is because the administration feels that students only learn when a teacher is in front of a class. Our contract only calls for 2 and ½ hours planning time each week. That’s 25 hours of “teaching” with 2 ½ ours of planning.<br />
I am not endorsing the use of worksheets but the administration of our district is not encouraging creative teaching with this type of scheduling. My schedule next year will be 10 half hour classes a day, 800 students a week. Factory style teaching at its best, the students better fit the mold.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-77688</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:

I&#039;d like to respond to a separate point you made in your comment: &quot;I find it distasteful to drag your own kids into public criticism like this.&quot; My children are enrolled in public school, and I am focused on working to improve and transform learning opportunities for people everywhere inside and outside of schools. How could I not permit the experiences of my own children now in public school to not influence and color my own thinking about learning, school, and educational change?

Why do you find this &quot;distasteful?&quot; In my view, this is authentic and real. Should I ignore realities like this? Do you find this &quot;distasteful&quot; because it is critical, and critical views (especially ones which strike close to home) can be difficult to hear and accept?

If I was writing an article for a professional journal, I would be much less likely to use an example like this. In that context, we&#039;d likely survey families, aggregate that survey data, and then present those findings in a less personal, more objective way. Is that why you find the use of family anecdotes like this &quot;distasteful,&quot; because you are used to and prefer a more objective, less personal, and more formal style of writing like what we continue to find in professional journals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to respond to a separate point you made in your comment: &#8220;I find it distasteful to drag your own kids into public criticism like this.&#8221; My children are enrolled in public school, and I am focused on working to improve and transform learning opportunities for people everywhere inside and outside of schools. How could I not permit the experiences of my own children now in public school to not influence and color my own thinking about learning, school, and educational change?</p>
<p>Why do you find this &#8220;distasteful?&#8221; In my view, this is authentic and real. Should I ignore realities like this? Do you find this &#8220;distasteful&#8221; because it is critical, and critical views (especially ones which strike close to home) can be difficult to hear and accept?</p>
<p>If I was writing an article for a professional journal, I would be much less likely to use an example like this. In that context, we&#8217;d likely survey families, aggregate that survey data, and then present those findings in a less personal, more objective way. Is that why you find the use of family anecdotes like this &#8220;distasteful,&#8221; because you are used to and prefer a more objective, less personal, and more formal style of writing like what we continue to find in professional journals?</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-77686</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AllanahK That is great suggestion about recycling! I&#039;ll discuss this with my kids.</description>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/03/27/the-thursday-folder-and-worksheet-measured-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-77685</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason: You raise important points. Here are some responses.

First of all, I am not calling any teacher, including my own childrens&#039; teachers, &quot;stupid.&quot; This is a basic issue we see with behavior all the time. I am not criticizing the person. I am criticizing a specific behavior, and in this case, a specific worksheet and type of worksheet. I am also criticizing a pattern of behavior, which is giving children worksheets like the one I highlighted in this post that constitute &quot;busywork.&quot; This happens quite a bit at our school. Please do not hear me &quot;calling them [my childrens&#039; teachers] &#039;stupid.&#039;&quot; If you re-read my post above I think that should be clear. Attacks like that would be counter-productive, and also just wouldn&#039;t be something I would do.

It is reasonable to ask me if I&#039;ve talked directly to the teacher who assigned that word search about it personally, and the answer is no. I saw that worksheet on Thursday night, and didn&#039;t make an appointment to meet with her on Friday. Based on your suggestion and encouragement,  I will do that next week. She certainly deserves to hear my sentiments directly.

Please note that I am not posting these thoughts to &quot;skewer&quot; particular teachers or even my kids&#039; own school specifically. You&#039;ll note I do not mention teacher&#039;s names or school names when I am critical in posts like this. When I praise individuals as well as organizations, I DO use their names.

I really would like to change the learning culture at my children&#039;s school, to move beyond this worksheet focus, but I am not naive enough to think a parent-teacher conference is going to do that. I have been engaged the past three years in several ways with our own teachers and school district when it comes to digital literacy, promoting collaboration and videoconferencing, etc, but basically these efforts have produced very little fruit. See my post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/08/29/live-tweeting-back-to-school-night/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Live tweeting back to school night&quot; from August 2008&lt;/a&gt; for more on that background.

No one likes criticism of any kind, especially public criticism. You wrote, &quot;if I were a teacher and ran into criticism like this on the Internet, I would feel ashamed.&quot; You and everyone else are certainly entitled to feel any way you want. When we encounter criticism, however, I think it&#039;s potentially most valuable if we consider the ideas which have been presented and then analyze our own behavior to see if there IS something which we can or should change.

I&#039;m listening to you and trying to model this idea in taking your suggestion. I&#039;ll go visit with the teacher and talk with her about this. We&#039;ll see what happens. I won&#039;t be holding my breath that the result will be transformative, pedagogic change in her classroom, however, or in the school building more generally. I&#039;ll report on the result of our conversation here on this post thread after the meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: You raise important points. Here are some responses.</p>
<p>First of all, I am not calling any teacher, including my own childrens&#8217; teachers, &#8220;stupid.&#8221; This is a basic issue we see with behavior all the time. I am not criticizing the person. I am criticizing a specific behavior, and in this case, a specific worksheet and type of worksheet. I am also criticizing a pattern of behavior, which is giving children worksheets like the one I highlighted in this post that constitute &#8220;busywork.&#8221; This happens quite a bit at our school. Please do not hear me &#8220;calling them [my childrens' teachers] &#8216;stupid.&#8217;&#8221; If you re-read my post above I think that should be clear. Attacks like that would be counter-productive, and also just wouldn&#8217;t be something I would do.</p>
<p>It is reasonable to ask me if I&#8217;ve talked directly to the teacher who assigned that word search about it personally, and the answer is no. I saw that worksheet on Thursday night, and didn&#8217;t make an appointment to meet with her on Friday. Based on your suggestion and encouragement,  I will do that next week. She certainly deserves to hear my sentiments directly.</p>
<p>Please note that I am not posting these thoughts to &#8220;skewer&#8221; particular teachers or even my kids&#8217; own school specifically. You&#8217;ll note I do not mention teacher&#8217;s names or school names when I am critical in posts like this. When I praise individuals as well as organizations, I DO use their names.</p>
<p>I really would like to change the learning culture at my children&#8217;s school, to move beyond this worksheet focus, but I am not naive enough to think a parent-teacher conference is going to do that. I have been engaged the past three years in several ways with our own teachers and school district when it comes to digital literacy, promoting collaboration and videoconferencing, etc, but basically these efforts have produced very little fruit. See my post, <a href="http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/08/29/live-tweeting-back-to-school-night/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Live tweeting back to school night&#8221; from August 2008</a> for more on that background.</p>
<p>No one likes criticism of any kind, especially public criticism. You wrote, &#8220;if I were a teacher and ran into criticism like this on the Internet, I would feel ashamed.&#8221; You and everyone else are certainly entitled to feel any way you want. When we encounter criticism, however, I think it&#8217;s potentially most valuable if we consider the ideas which have been presented and then analyze our own behavior to see if there IS something which we can or should change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m listening to you and trying to model this idea in taking your suggestion. I&#8217;ll go visit with the teacher and talk with her about this. We&#8217;ll see what happens. I won&#8217;t be holding my breath that the result will be transformative, pedagogic change in her classroom, however, or in the school building more generally. I&#8217;ll report on the result of our conversation here on this post thread after the meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very inclined to agree with you, Wes, but I have to take exception to this post and the same observation that Will makes at nearly all of his appearances.  I find it distasteful to drag your own kids into public criticism like this and in fact, if I were a teacher and ran into criticism like this on the Internet, I would feel ashamed.  Are you actually talking with your children&#039;s teachers and sharing this criticism?  Are you contacting them and saying this to them directly?  If you aren&#039;t, it is poor form to then run off to the Internet and trash on their methods.  Even if their is a lot of truth in your message (word searches?  really?), calling them &quot;stupid&quot; on your blog if you aren&#039;t willing to contact them and have a productive conversation strikes me as mean spirited...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very inclined to agree with you, Wes, but I have to take exception to this post and the same observation that Will makes at nearly all of his appearances.  I find it distasteful to drag your own kids into public criticism like this and in fact, if I were a teacher and ran into criticism like this on the Internet, I would feel ashamed.  Are you actually talking with your children&#8217;s teachers and sharing this criticism?  Are you contacting them and saying this to them directly?  If you aren&#8217;t, it is poor form to then run off to the Internet and trash on their methods.  Even if their is a lot of truth in your message (word searches?  really?), calling them &#8220;stupid&#8221; on your blog if you aren&#8217;t willing to contact them and have a productive conversation strikes me as mean spirited&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank LaBanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank LaBanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes,

What bothers me most is not the worksheets, but rather the lack focus on higher order thinking skills.  Students don&#039;t need to reinforce their learning; they need to APPLY it.  I, like you, have an elementary school child and am often frustrated with her &quot;worksheet set&quot; as well.  I&#039;ve written a similar story to yours:  http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=133 

When she elects to follow on her own ideas, the results are so different, so much more relevant and really reminiscent of a 21st-century learner - (see: http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=224) maybe this type of learning might not involve technology, but it should access critical, creative thinking, written/oral communication, and authenticity.  

That&#039;s my challenge as an educator:  to give students meaningful, authentic work that allows them to apply knowledge, not just regurgitate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes,</p>
<p>What bothers me most is not the worksheets, but rather the lack focus on higher order thinking skills.  Students don&#8217;t need to reinforce their learning; they need to APPLY it.  I, like you, have an elementary school child and am often frustrated with her &#8220;worksheet set&#8221; as well.  I&#8217;ve written a similar story to yours:  <a href="http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=133" rel="nofollow">http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=133</a> </p>
<p>When she elects to follow on her own ideas, the results are so different, so much more relevant and really reminiscent of a 21st-century learner &#8211; (see: <a href="http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=224" rel="nofollow">http://problemfinding.labanca.net/?p=224</a>) maybe this type of learning might not involve technology, but it should access critical, creative thinking, written/oral communication, and authenticity.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my challenge as an educator:  to give students meaningful, authentic work that allows them to apply knowledge, not just regurgitate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to post earlier, but I don’t think it went through…so here it goes again. 
Thanks for the post Wes!  I completely agree!  Too many students are all too often engaged in meaningless lower level busy work!  We live in an age of changing communication, and technologies that are being offered for students to use are exciting and engaging, why are so many educators fighting the use of these instead of embracing them?  As a tech coordinator and teacher I am always trying to get my colleagues to try some of the many exciting web 2.0 tools that are available and I am often met with closed minds.  

When teachers use technology to allow students to learn, create, and collaborate we are engaging students in meaningful, higher level thinking and active literacy (http://myccs.ccs.k12.in.us/uploads/news/0000/0321/schmoker.pdf).  I am so excited to see many schools promoting 1:1 initiatives!  We need 1:1 computing in schools as soon as possible! 

Wish your son was in my fourth grade class, check out our class blog: http://ifolder.ccs.k12.in.us/mt4/mr_atkinson_4th_grade_2008-2009/, our class Ning! http://atkinsonclass.ning.com/, and our class Moodle http://moodle.ccs.k12.in.us/course/category.php?id=15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to post earlier, but I don’t think it went through…so here it goes again.<br />
Thanks for the post Wes!  I completely agree!  Too many students are all too often engaged in meaningless lower level busy work!  We live in an age of changing communication, and technologies that are being offered for students to use are exciting and engaging, why are so many educators fighting the use of these instead of embracing them?  As a tech coordinator and teacher I am always trying to get my colleagues to try some of the many exciting web 2.0 tools that are available and I am often met with closed minds.  </p>
<p>When teachers use technology to allow students to learn, create, and collaborate we are engaging students in meaningful, higher level thinking and active literacy (<a href="http://myccs.ccs.k12.in.us/uploads/news/0000/0321/schmoker.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://myccs.ccs.k12.in.us/uploads/news/0000/0321/schmoker.pdf</a>).  I am so excited to see many schools promoting 1:1 initiatives!  We need 1:1 computing in schools as soon as possible! </p>
<p>Wish your son was in my fourth grade class, check out our class blog: <a href="http://ifolder.ccs.k12.in.us/mt4/mr_atkinson_4th_grade_2008-2009/" rel="nofollow">http://ifolder.ccs.k12.in.us/mt4/mr_atkinson_4th_grade_2008-2009/</a>, our class Ning! <a href="http://atkinsonclass.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://atkinsonclass.ning.com/</a>, and our class Moodle <a href="http://moodle.ccs.k12.in.us/course/category.php?id=15" rel="nofollow">http://moodle.ccs.k12.in.us/course/category.php?id=15</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Thursday Folder :: Patrick Malley</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thursday Folder :: Patrick Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beth Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here, Wes.  Not only paper is wasted, but also teachers&#039; time standing at the copy machine churning away.  Think of how this time could be used to plan projects and hands-on activities. 

The power of our hands to create is too great to restrict them to pencil and paper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here, Wes.  Not only paper is wasted, but also teachers&#8217; time standing at the copy machine churning away.  Think of how this time could be used to plan projects and hands-on activities. </p>
<p>The power of our hands to create is too great to restrict them to pencil and paper!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard MacLemale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard MacLemale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!  This is why I have you in my Google Reader!  :)

One thing to add.  As an elementary student, I can distinctly remember finishing a worksheet one day faster than most everyone else in the class, and how proud I was.  My teacher smiled and gave me another worksheet.  I learned that it made sense for me to slow down.  In some ways, things haven&#039;t changed since the 70&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!  This is why I have you in my Google Reader!  <img src='http://www.speedofcreativity.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing to add.  As an elementary student, I can distinctly remember finishing a worksheet one day faster than most everyone else in the class, and how proud I was.  My teacher smiled and gave me another worksheet.  I learned that it made sense for me to slow down.  In some ways, things haven&#8217;t changed since the 70&#8242;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AllanahK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllanahK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would maybe suggest a paper recyling bin might be in order. Imagine how much all that paper would cost the school to buy and the trees that could be saved by finding a more creative way of sharing a child&#039;s learning. It&#039;s a worry all right- there must be better ways for kids to fill their school day than doing a word search or fill in the gaps worksheets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would maybe suggest a paper recyling bin might be in order. Imagine how much all that paper would cost the school to buy and the trees that could be saved by finding a more creative way of sharing a child&#8217;s learning. It&#8217;s a worry all right- there must be better ways for kids to fill their school day than doing a word search or fill in the gaps worksheets.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheri Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can do is to re-ask:

&quot;When are my own children going to be able to use technologies like these IN SCHOOL&quot;

because you have explained it all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can do is to re-ask:</p>
<p>&#8220;When are my own children going to be able to use technologies like these IN SCHOOL&#8221;</p>
<p>because you have explained it all&#8230;</p>
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