These are my notes from Bob Martin‘s presentation “The Challenges of Web 2.0″ at the COSN conference in Austin, Texas, on March 11, 2009. Bob is a technical trainer for MORENET, which is part of the University of Missouri.
There is a disconnect we need to bridge
- between tech directors and teachers, parents and students
MORENET is a nonprofit and part of the University of Missouri
- without MORENET many rural Missouri schools wouldn’t have high speed Internet access (Bakersfield, MO is a problem)
- 519 districts in MORENET
We’ve had roundtable discussions with 200-250 people to talk with us
- these are preliminary survey results
- we did record audio in some cases because people were talking so fast!
K-12 teachers said they have:
- lack of knowledge about web 2.0
- no time to research
- security concerns
- filtering concerns
- perceptions was from parents that these were not tools, they were toys (Facebook)
- kids know more than we do
- lack of supporting research
we were being asked to teach teachers about how to use a blog, but most teachers didn’t even know what a blog was
- many teachers were creating blogs, but not creating them very safely
teachers are mostly grading papers in their planning periods
We have found kids know what they know: not how to setup security, how to prevent people from coming to the blog they don’t want
- kids may know how to use the tools, but not how to use them RIGHT
WordPress and Edublogs are much better for blogs, because they don’t allow javascript and Flash which can let viruses into your network
questions about lots of different tools made us want to standardize on a set of specific web 2.0 tools
I don’t know who to tell” might be a better way to say their feedback than “I don’t have time”
Higher education folks were interesting
- they don’t care what you do, just don’t do it in class or as a part of your class
- biggest higher education concern: bandwidth
- don’t say wiki to public librarians or professors in higher education: they immediately get out the “F” stamp
- they just don’t like wikis, but they often don’t understand the full use of the tool
- wikipedia as a cited resource? not going to happen
Librarians often saying “we can’t keep up with these tools”
- Twitter as an example: How many people knew about Twitter 1.5 years ago?
Disconnect between teachers and the technicians
Netsmartz study showed only about 20% of kids are actually tech literate, the vast majority of them are NOT
key advice:
- start small
- don’t start with every kid having their own blog, and contributing to another team blog, and commenting, etc….
how do you eat the elephant? 1 bite at a time
Internet statistics from the National Center for Educational Statistics in June 2005
- 67% of nursery age students use computers, 23% use the Internet
- kindergarten: 80% use computers, 32% use the INternet
…more…
Most freshmen in HS have not setup controls
Do we know the rules of the pool?
- do we have the rules posted?
When comment moderation is turned on, that is a game changer for students
- most have been in environments where they can comment anywhere without restrictions
we need to post rules so we are all playing on the same field
It’s like personal information
- don’t show yourself in your cheerleading outfit, right before
do kids know the dangers of posting an image out “into the wild?”
- they will never get it back
do THEY know how to keep their information safe and secure?
- do they know how to use the internet tools for the environment they are entering?
Want to see a restrictive environment: Go to the company Countrywide
- if you want to even check your email, you have to go to a class that is not offered very often
We need more “lab coat research”
- we need more education with new and existing teachers, technical coordinators, and administrators
- increasing awareness
standardized tools
- blogs: edublogs
- wikis: wikispaces for educators
- social bookmarking: diigo for educators
- social networking: Ning
- RSS: Google Reader
- Microblogging: Edmodo
Edublogs minimizes advertising
IS THIS RIGHT? I THOUGHT THEY JUST CHANGED THEIR POLICY WHERE YOUR SITE HAS ADS UNLESS YOU PAY?
Other social bookmarking services in addition to delicious and diigo:
- simpy
- ma.gnolia (It appears ma.gnolia is dead however)
using Netsweeper now for MORENET which will permit districts to use differentiated content filtering (filter teachers differently than students)
don’t use “social bookmarking” as a term, use “collaborative bookmarking”
Bob Martin on Twitter: http://twitter.com/dabigleap
Bob’s blog: http://theteacherteacher.wordpress.com/
Comments from Bill Fiske from Rhode Island after the session:
2 groups of technology directors in Rhode Island
- educational technology obstructionists
- educational technology facilitators
We’ll only stop this behavior when we expose it to the public: talk about public relations, amplify the good work some are doing in some schools
Bob’s comment:
- in some of these districts the computers are like paperweights
My comment: The liability and control fears which drive some districts to not allow teachers to do anything on web 2.0 are the same districts which prohibit and get rid of playground equipment at elementary schools because of liability fears
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On this day..
- Podcast305: Science Education from a Technology Leader’s Perspective by Dr. David Thornburg - 2009
- Preliminary Report of a National Survey of School Leaders on the Use of Web 2.0 in Schools - 2009
- Science Education from a Technology Leader's Perspective by David Thornburg - 2009
- K12 Horizon Report (CoSN 2009) - 2009
- Spinning history and the means of publication - 2008
- Debating Ataturk, more bans on user created content - 2007
- PictureAustralia with Flickr - 2006
- Vitae, spellcheck and change - 2006
- Great feed aggregator - 2006
- Laptop hard drive replacement - 2006



































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